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  • ckerrd
    ckerrd Posts: 2,641 Forumite
    zappahey wrote: »
    Because it's round and on a stick?

    Is that not a lollipop?
    We all evolve - get on with it
  • shandypants5
    shandypants5 Posts: 2,124 Forumite
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    Ok maybe saying 1mph was exaggerating a bit but I haven't KNOWINGLY speeded since I got my points. And as for how long you spend driving I don't think it really comes down to that because it doesn't matter if you drive for 10 mins or 10 hours you still shouldn't be speeding!

    I wasnt knowingly speedin either... strange road lack of concentration....comfortable car...
    No excuse I know.. But I made a mistake.. Everybody does...

    The longer you spend in a driving seat, the more mistakes you will make, unless you are "A perfect driver" and I am not.

    although my crimes are all committed in a short space of time. I have actually covered 30,000 miles between my first ticket and my last.
    how many years would it take you to do that.?
    when you have finished please post and let me know how many points you collected.:confused:

    I will try to be perfect from now on, (I thought i was a safe driver before.)

    I am not a boy racer or teararse, but at least I have the honesty to admit that I may slip up occasionally.

    A few of people on here are saying it serves me right...:rolleyes:

    Well maybe it does..but i doubt if ANY of you are totaly innocent of ever violating a traffic law of any kind...

    anyone... honestly...?:rolleyes:
    “Careful. We don't want to learn from this.”
  • rdwarr
    rdwarr Posts: 6,159 Forumite
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    ckerrd wrote: »
    So if I am in a 70 mph limit area but feel I can only safely drive at 30 mph that is okay then - by your logic.
    I suppose you could be on a foggy motorway. There is some sense behind this and comments seemed well-intentioned.
    Can I help?
  • peterbaker
    peterbaker Posts: 3,083 Forumite
    I really sympathise with the OP. It is my worst fear, having been distracted and forgotten to nail my speed at a speed camera or missing it entirely and then missing another before I get the first ticket! I actually avoid unfamiliar routes if I can, partly for that reason.

    It is a funny old world we have made for ourselves in the UK. I was wondering why some Poles in their PL reg cars zoom up the fast lane with no care in the world and through cameras too, usually two up with the passenger snoring against the window because they work so hard!

    That bit about swapping the UK licence in Poland for an untouchable EU licence is priceless! I think I'll book my first Ryanair flight to Poland with that in mind now!

    I have driven a hell of a lot of miles in my 33 years of driving. My average speed now is faster than it has ever been including when I was a crazy kid.
    I also have more points on my licence than ever before right now. I never had more than 3 at any time. Currently with just two speeding convictions I have 8. C'est la vie.

    Knowing a bit of physics I know that every bit of speed can cause potential damage and kill at increasing rates proportional not to the speed but to the square of it on impact. But I also know that the government certainly does not wish to slow down business to nail 70mph on the motorway. If it did we we would probably already have engine speed limiters like lorries do.

    We elect the government that permits serious speeding but effectively taxes individuals for it heavily (fines us using speed cameras mostly).

    The dumb thing is that so many of us accept this tax liability on behalf of our employers. In working hours we are not speeding for anyone else are we? Few employers will pay for the barrister it requires to get you the leniency you need to continue drive for your job. In 1990 I was lucky. I had an employer who payed the best part of a grand to get me just a 7 day ban and a £90 fine for driving over 100mph on the M25 at midnight. It was a comfortable car and I was late home and had an early appointment again in the morning. As it was a company car I didn't have to pay higher insurance at renewal for the ban either, and when you get a ban your points get reset to zero:-)

    So I guess I was counted lucky with a rich sponsor.

    But on the other hand the government allows pariahs to be made out of those who aren't rich enough to employ barristers and get caught too frequently.

    Speeding in built up areas is different of course, but no of course no two built up areas are the same. Villages with blind corners is one thing, but great wide dual carriageways with streetlamps and very few other apparent speed limit signs is a bit sneeky in some places.

    I know one dead straight very wide road with wide pavements both sides through a village with space to breath between the houses that has a 20mph limit in it. Why? It is just a gimmick employed by the local parish council. Does it really mean 20mph? Or what? I don't blame them, it was obviously put there to slow traffic that was going too fast, but to reduce them from 30mph to 20mph? I think not. I think it is perhaps in that case it is the device they are forced to use now instead of a new camera in spots where there are no accident statistics to warrant the camera.

    I also know no less than three cameras on the A12/A102M/A20 that have been deliberately hidden behind other road furniture to approaching drivers. If you are like the OP and new to the area with no SatNav warnings then you are taxed if your view of a safe speed is not quite slow enough for the camera that is hidden to catch you contrary to the spirit of the guidelines that say it must be painted bright yellow so you can see it. Even that old faithful at the bottom of the M11 is obscured deliberately by a dirty great roadworks sign everyime they have roadworks within a mile of it.

    And in the blue corner, every day I see more and more number plates which are corrupted in some fashion to fool cameras. The practice is rife.

    Why should we mugs who tax and insure and hold UK licences and keep our numbers clean subsidise the likes of those who spray mud on their plates, or use the weirdest fonts, or even just take off their Velcroed numbers when it suits them? Or indeed why should we pay extra for our insurance when trubster, who would struggle to explain his position if he had a big accident .... these are the real questions.

    We are creating a nation of trubsters. I will admit now to having considered if 2007 isn't now perhaps the time when I should stop bothering to insure or tax or MOT the car or display correct numberplates, in the same way as I have considered whether I should strategically build up huge credit card debts and "lose" the funds and then get an IVA. Doesn't everyone? Well of course not. But you can't blame those that do, over much because the government tolerates it, just like it tolerates an average white van speed of 90mph in the M11 fast lane out of London on a sunny Friday afternoon!
  • Markyt
    Markyt Posts: 11,864 Forumite
    ckerrd wrote: »
    So if I am in a 70 mph limit area but feel I can only safely drive at 30 mph that is okay then - by your logic.

    Err, well, yes - if its foggy and vis is <50m, you wouldn't want to be barreling down the road at 70mph.

    A bit of common sense is all it needs to drive at the right speed for the conditions. Sadly, I find many of those who argue in favour of blanket limits lack this :-(
  • tiff
    tiff Posts: 6,608 Forumite
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    david69 wrote: »
    Get real he's not a twit most people on this thread probably only drive to the shops once a week, if you drive 40k plus a year your chances of getting caught are much higher.


    I am a Mum who does the school route twice a day, 5 days a week. I was caught at something like 38 mph in a 30 limit, by a mobile police unit. A year later I got caught again, twice in a month doing a similar speed by the same camera unit. I now have 9 points on my licence. I accept I was speeding and paid the fine BUT I do feel that I have been unfairly targetted and I remember the fuss in the local media when the police started doing this.

    It is VERY easy to do 30+ without realising it, I now have a speed camera detecter thingy that reminds me and that has helped me to keep within the limit.

    I see people dangerously driving all the time, whilst I was over the limit I dont believe I was driving dangerously on a dual carriageway.

    You can all say DONT SPEED, but I do feel regular drivers are being targetted rather than the ones that are driving dangerously.
    “A budget is telling your money where to go instead of wondering where it went.” - Dave Ramsey
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