Nice people thread part 7 - a thread in its prime

michaels

LydiaJ wrote: »

This morning I have found the hamster dead in its cage. DD doesn't know yet. I will have to tell her when I pick her up from school.

Apparently they are supposed to live for 2-4 years, and ours wasn't due to turn 2 until June this year, so it feels premature.

Or you have 5 hours to find another one that looks similar

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

Anyone else have any such driving foibles?

Absolutely not! You've just won the Loon of the Week Award!!

silvercar

michaels wrote: »

Or you have 5 hours to find another one that looks similar

That would be my tactics, but how similar would it have to be? Tried it once with a goldfish and failed.

silvercar

When you bury people (as opposed to cremate) you wait a few weeks/ months for the ground to settle and then erect a headstone. In Judiasm you have a stone setting ceremony, do any christian denominations do the same? Or is it just in place and that's it? What about civic/ council cemeteries? And are there such things as non-denominational, non-religious private cemeteries?

What happens when someone is cremated and their ashes buried, is a small headstone erected? How long between cremation and their ashes being buried?

Feeling I should know the answer to these questions but don't.

LydiaJ

silvercar wrote: »

That would be my tactics, but how similar would it have to be? Tried it once with a goldfish and failed.

Not possible. Even if it looked exactly the same it wouldn't have the same habits or be as tame or something. She'll have to know.

Sadly, DD is all too familiar with the death of people and animals that she loves. First it was the dog, then Daddy, and then Granny. When she wanted to get a hamster, DS warned her "Don't get a hamster, because you'll love it and it will die." But she and I talked about it and she was sure that the pleasure of owning it would be worth the inevitable grief when it died. DD is very much a believer in "better to have loved and lost", whereas DS prefers not to give his heart away too easily.

The hard part will be holding to the position that since she's barely played with this one for ages, and has been leaving me to feed it and clean it out, that it's not worth the hassle of getting a new one, or not at this stage, anyway.

LydiaJ

silvercar wrote: »

When you bury people (as opposed to cremate) you wait a few weeks/ months for the ground to settle and then erect a headstone. In Judiasm you have a stone setting ceremony, do any christian denominations do the same? Or is it just in place and that's it? What about civic/ council cemeteries? And are there such things as non-denominational, non-religious private cemeteries?

What happens when someone is cremated and their ashes buried, is a small headstone erected? How long between cremation and their ashes being buried?

Feeling I should know the answer to these questions but don't.

Don't know anything about burials of whole bodies, I'm afraid, only ashes.

LNE was cremated, and his ashes were buried a day or two later in a short ceremony with the same vicar who did the funeral. His parents and my kids and I went, but nobody else. When ashes are buried they usually have a flat stone about 18" square on top. LNE has one, but there wasn't a ceremony to put it there.

Generali

vivatifosi wrote: »

Also, not far from St Pancras is the Jazz Cafe in Camden which has a fantastic artist list. You may well be familiar with these already, but just thought I'd chuck them in. Probably the biggest event coming up there is the Grandmaster Flash concert in April (they've added an extra date and tix still available).

I used to love that place.

We used to go there as students and shortly afterwards on Sunday lunchtime if we'd not really had a big Saturday night out so were looking for something nice to do or if we'd had an absolutely huge night out and were still going by that time!

I saw my favourite ever 2 jazz concerts there:

Gil Scott Heron:
The revolution will not go better with Coke!
The revolution will not fight germs that may cause bad breath
The revolution will put you in the driver's seat...

...because black people will be in the streets lookin' for A Brighter Day.

The Revolution will be no rerun Brothers;
The Revolution will be live.

Lady Day, John Coltrane is uplifting

Pharaoh Sanders was the other. Now there's a man who can run a band. He's a little esoteric but if that's your thing he's amazing.

He regularly performs Coltrane's Ole (link). Compare with the original (link).

Both are artists worth having a look at. Or not of course.

BertieUK

chewmylegoff wrote: »

You seem to have forgotten:

"Sports" exhaust
Digital dump valve sound replicator
Go-fasta bodykit / stripes
Chipped engine
Massive alloys
Under-chassis blue LED downlighting

I thought of you this morning when I stumbled upon this thread.;)

http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/aston-martin-silver-cross-buggy-pram-%C2%A32000-most-expensive-155109325.html

GDB2222

silvercar wrote: »

When you bury people (as opposed to cremate) you wait a few weeks/ months for the ground to settle and then erect a headstone. In Judiasm you have a stone setting ceremony, do any christian denominations do the same? Or is it just in place and that's it? What about civic/ council cemeteries? And are there such things as non-denominational, non-religious private cemeteries?

What happens when someone is cremated and their ashes buried, is a small headstone erected? How long between cremation and their ashes being buried?

Feeling I should know the answer to these questions but don't.

When my aunt died a few years ago, she had expressed a wish to be cremated and have her ashes buried next to her parents, under the same stone. It took quite a while to get the necessary permissions for the cemetery and organise it all. In the meantime, her ashes were stored, and then we had a small ceremony with just a handful of people present.

It's entirely up to you what you do. The ashes can be scattered or whatever you think appropriate. You don't need any special permissions, except from whoever owns the land you are scattering on. Some cemeteries have a wall on which memorial stones/plaques can be cemented. That seems more sensible than having a plot for the ashes, however small that would be. The real memorial is in the minds of the people who knew the person.

Spirit_2

bugslet wrote: »

@lydiaj - I've noticed with drivers ( run a haulage company) that use satnavs all the time, they don't tend to notice how they get to places and then have to use the sat nav again, whereas if you think about it, it sticks far better. After years of heavy UK mileage, I rarely even use a map these days. I do actually enjoy getting lost:o

A side effect of CABG is that you can lose some navigational skills (brain suffers a bit of side effects during surgery). I frequently got lost on the way home from places and would take myself miles out of my way and be unable to fathom out what the route was. I could ring Mr S and describe my surrounding hoping my OH would then be able to talk me through it. It could happen on foot too. I went out to pick holly and ivy one Christmas eve in the woods adjacent to our row of cottages...and was lost for a couple of hours. The problem was 'familiar routes' were the ones that would disappear. Mr S got me a Sat Nav to solve this. The problem has mostly resolved itself but still gets me every now and then. It has happened a few times recently and I currently have DD's Sat Nav in my car Going out to the butchers and ending up bewildered and 10 miles from home is a tad annoying.

silvercar wrote: »

What happens when someone is cremated and their ashes buried, is a small headstone erected? How long between cremation and their ashes being buried?

Feeling I should know the answer to these questions but don't.

My Mum's ashes were interred in the same grave as my father was buried in. The plot is in the grounds of a crematorium. An official from the crematorium conducted a small ceremony at interment, the stone had been removed as we were having it replaced with one that bore both names. Mum had had a RC church funeral and a Crematorium Commital some weeks before we interred her ashes, when the new stone was placed this was done by the stone mason and there was no further ceremony.