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Nice people thread part 7 - a thread in its prime
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sss, you're thinking like an owner. Of course you have to put up with inconvenience to get your own home repaired. But then it's your house and you want the repairs done, so your inconvenience is worth it.
Chewy and his OH aren't bothered about whether the painting is done. They've been living with the damaged paintwork since Feb and it doesn't trouble them. It's being done for the LL's benefit, in order to make the house more attractive to buyers, which isn't in chewy's interest or his OH's. The LL has arranged for the painters to start tomorrow and chewy and his OH have agreed. Today, chewy's OH has a (presumably fairly rare) day off, and doubtless has things planned that she wants to do with it, probably in the flat, which the painters will get in the way of.
Why should she have to put up with the inconvenience of painters disrupting her day off that she's planned for, by arriving a day earlier than arranged, to do work that she and chewy don't want done, in order to help the LL to sell the house and (probably) turf them out of their home?
Edit: And they absolutely should not have turned up with keys intending to let themselves in (if chewy's OH hadn't been there) a day earlier than arranged without asking first. Nobody should let themselves into somebody else's home without the occupant knowing, and knowing that they were supposed to come tomorrow doesn't constitute consent for them to enter their home today.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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That's all pretty cunning L but one day won't make any long term difference as to when the flat will be sold.
Yes as an owner you would rather work was done when your around if possible rather than the other. The landlady wont be mad with the decorators for trying to get on with it though.
Fair enough if she has a good reason not to be disturbed but if it's just because of the inconvenience then I think the landlady/ decorators have a right to feel peeved.0 -
That's all pretty cunning L but one day won't make any long term difference as to when the flat will be sold.
Yes as an owner you would rather work was done when your around if possible rather than the other. The landlady wont be mad with the decorators for trying to get on with it though.
Fair enough if she has a good reason not to be disturbed but if it's just because of the inconvenience then I think the landlady/ decorators have a right to feel peeved.
No, she deserves notice, and no way should people be letting themselves in without prior agreement.
I have always sort to be as flexible as possible with ll, but that is part of the service they pay for, quite aside from it not being in their favour or any 'cunning'.0 -
Not saying your wrong chewy but it's inevitable there are going to be some inconveniences when getting repair work done on your dwelling.
of course, i don't mind inconvience, but turning up on a different day and wanting to start working without giving any notice is not what i would call inconvenience. it is completely unreasonable (let's not forget that the LL has right to access if they give reasonable notice, and reasonable notice is 24 hours notice in writing unless it's an emergency, which it very clearly is not).The fact that your OH was there and the landlady, decorators were looking to get on with it ASAP and for you to turn round and say it's a inconvenience because OH is there seems a bit "OTT" and they would be feeling pretty frustrated.
the landlady hasn't bothered to get it fixed for 10 months. also i'm pretty sure that the landlady actually has no idea what has happened, and is probably completely unaware that they have even turned up at the property today. whether they are frustrated or not makes no difference to whether they are acting reasonably.She's Aussie after all and I bet she can look after herself
well, she is actually pretty timid about things like this and i imagine she is probably a bit upset really.
i think the worst thing is just ignoring being clearly told no and going there anywhere, frankly, hoping they could get her to agree to let them in. that should never have happened - if they were unhappy with me they should have phoned the landlady and got her to ring me.0 -
That's all pretty cunning L but one day won't make any long term difference as to when the flat will be sold.
Yes as an owner you would rather work was done when your around if possible rather than the other. The landlady wont be mad with the decorators for trying to get on with it though.
Fair enough if she has a good reason not to be disturbed but if it's just because of the inconvenience then I think the landlady/ decorators have a right to feel peeved.
I wasn't suggesting that one day would make any difference as to when the flat would be sold. Just that if the LL wants to sell the flat out from under the tenants, and therefore arranges for the decorators to come on Tuesday, which the tenants agree is convenient, then the decorators shouldn't turn up on Monday without warning, and expect the tenants to be happy about it if it's not convenient.
Those of you who've never rented, try to imagine the following situation. Suppose your next door neighbour wants to build an extension that will cut off your view, so you don't want them to do it but you've accepted that you can't stop them. Suppose that in order to do this they need some tradespeople to do some work for which they need access to the inside of your home. Suppose you arrange for them to do this on Tuesday, which is convenient for you, even though you don't really want the work done. Then imagine they turn up on Monday when you had a day off booked and were looking forward to doing something undisturbed. How would you feel? And that's only going to cut off your view, not actually render you homeless.
Inconvenience just feels totally different when it's for somebody else's benefit, not yours, and even worse when the purpose is to get you out of your home.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
Yes I do agree she deserves notice and fair enough if she had good reason to refuse.
There was no harm in asking or expecting her to be helpful if there was no reason other than a slight inconvenience.
That was my only point.
And I do agree they shouldn't be letting themselves in without permission.0 -
vivatifosi wrote: »People here aint looking happy.
:mad: Ditto............!!!
What did we expect wearing those stupid creamsicle uniforms :eek:'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'0 -
Yes I do agree she deserves notice and fair enough if she had good reason to refuse.
There was no harm in asking or expecting her to be helpful if there was no reason other than a slight inconvenience.
That was my only point.
And I do agree they shouldn't be letting themselves in without permission.
Oh sure, no harm in asking. Like when the supermarket delivery driver phones up and asks if he can come early because he's done his other deliveries. But if they ask and chewy and his OH say no, they should go away and stay away until tomorrow.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
the fact that they're improving the property to make it easier to sell is not really relevant - i don't mind them doing that and we are not blocking them because we want to make it more difficult for them to sell it.
we are talking about a 2 bedroom flat which isn't that big and which comprises an open plan kitchen / dining room which includes the foyer area where the damage is. it's not like painting a bedroom upstairs in a large house where you could close the door and just let them get on with it - she wouldn't be able to leave the flat or get back in because the damage is around the inside of the front door frame, the room will get filled with paint dust as they will have to strip the damaged paintwork, and the whole place will be consumed with paint fumes - so basically she have to either shut herself in a bedroom or leave, which isn't reasonable.0 -
Yes I do agree she deserves notice and fair enough if she had good reason to refuse.
There was no harm in asking or expecting her to be helpful if there was no reason other than a slight inconvenience.
That was my only point.
And I do agree they shouldn't be letting themselves in without permission.
A day off, when you have few, is something to be treasured. And she obviously wanted time alone or she would have taken her day off with chewy, eaten immense sandwiches in bed while washing passports and smashing iPads.0
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