Ex husbands new wife a nightmare! Csa help!

kevin137

I think that is the point though, both systems are extremely unfair and bias, in one you could pay significantly more, or significantly less that the newer system, on the newer system it is extremely unfair as it leaves you in a position where you cannot afford a mortgage while the ex is possibly living in a house that you bought.

It is a fine line between the 2, and you will never please all the people all the time.

The only thing that we can all really agree on, is that the CSA as a whole, not individuals, is a useless, inappropriate system for getting the argumentative cases sorted, yes there has to be a system, but it should be a system that works.

How can it be right that, on divorce you go to court, a settlement is reached, money exchanges hands, normally in leu of CM when it comes to property, yet 1 year and 1 day later, you can open a claim and get paid AGAIN. How is it that, a system can not only accrue arrears so badly on many occasions and then give you so little time to pay it regardless of it making you homeless, how is it, that they can order you to pay yet years down the line only then take action if you don't.

A better solution, is that on your original order, that you have to submit 3 months payslips 1 year later. So if you are assessed 1st August 2012, you must submit 3 months payslips by 1st August 2013 for re-assessment, or face a fine of £250. That DEO is imposed from the start so arrears cannot accrue for those employed, that self employed have to submit 3 years accounts from the start, and that the CSA have access to DVLA registration database, land registrations, credit card information etc to see line of credit, and what is actually coming and going into accounts.

Self employed is the biggest gripe on here, that is apparent, so tighten what the law is for them, and refine for others...

Or better still, give the power back to the courts and let the judges decide from the evidence in front of them, a human face to hearings is a lot easier than NEVER seeing anyone who has a hold over your life, the other thing with courts is that they have more power to deal with things immediately. SO if you don't ay, they breach you and order immediate payment or seizure of goods or prison... More effective in my mind...!

jarhead66

Shegirl i was paying £469 (£106) amonth for my son, as he is now 17 the CSA don't include the carer's allowance in my assesment so my payments have dropped by £380 amonth (£87 aweek) even thought maintenance needed is only £71 aweek?? my average income is £27000 gross a year my housing costs are £206 amonth, I was told by the CSA that if my partner moved in my payments would increase. no wonder the CSA don't want to move me to a fairer scheme!!

shegirl

jarhead66 wrote: »

Shegirl i was paying £469 (£106) amonth for my son, as he is now 17 the CSA don't include the carer's allowance in my assesment so my payments have dropped by £380 amonth (£87 aweek) even thought maintenance needed is only £71 aweek?? my average income is £27000 gross a year my housing costs are £206 amonth, I was told by the CSA that if my partner moved in my payments would increase. no wonder the CSA don't want to move me to a fairer scheme!!

Ah,yeah it may go up then!!

Is there a set amount past 'maintenance needed' that they can take or just whatever up to the 30% ?

I try not to get my head around csa1 much tbh,they didn't make it simple,did they:rotfl:

Weefee_3

I personally think they should scrap both csa 1 and 2 bring in a new system and work out maintenance by the nrps p60 or tax return! Would make life soo much easier if worked out on a yearly basis! The ex wife can't request reassessments every two minutes and the ex husband can't fiddle the system! Win, win! Just my 2 cents

PreludeForTimeFeelers

Weefee wrote: »

I personally think they should scrap both csa 1 and 2 bring in a new system and work out maintenance by the nrps p60 or tax return! Would make life soo much easier if worked out on a yearly basis! The ex wife can't request reassessments every two minutes and the ex husband can't fiddle the system! Win, win! Just my 2 cents

Welcome to the new system!

That's the basis of the new calculations, coming in at the end of this year, providing things go to plan...

Weefee_3

Oh! Well I feel stupid lol! Thought I had the mega brilliant idea that would fix the csa but its already being done!

PreludeForTimeFeelers

Weefee wrote: »

Oh! Well I feel stupid lol! Thought I had the mega brilliant idea that would fix the csa but its already being done!

ha, don't worry, it's not come in yet, there's still plenty of time for things to go wrong!

WYSPECIAL

Natalie3344 wrote: »

My eldest is 18 this year and off to uni so her part would stop soon anyway, and my youngest is 13 and I think your right about carers element stopping when she's 14 because a reassessment happens when she turns 14. So for me, it really isn't about the money just the principle because now I want to close the case when my eldest reaches 18 because I'd rather not give my ex the satisfaction of me claiming the silly amount that would be paid for my youngest!

Have you worked out what it will be? With CS1 the formula is so complex you may find it doesn't actually go down at all.
Regarding the housing cost if you haven't applied for a departure then he is entitled to 100% of it to be included in the formula regardless of it being joint with his new partner.

kelloggs36

Not read the whole thread, but have you asked for a variation on the grounds that she can contribute towards the mortgage?

Natalie3344

I did apply for a variation on the grounds she works and can contribute, but they told csa she's not working! When I queried this with csa they said they have to accept that as the answer and wouldn't bother checking themselves! Csa really is a mine field....