Ex husbands new wife a nightmare! Csa help!

jarhead66

my ex used the CSA as a form of harassment i was getting reassed every few months, she was also phoning them up on a regular basis telling them that my g/f was living with me i had another job, all these letters where sent with the threat of a £1000 fine if i gave false information, why didn't they use the same threat with her?? When i asked the CSA why they where letting her use them as a form of harassment i was told that they where just doing there job!! Well i thought that excuse went out in 1945!! lol.
One thing i would like to know is how many nights can my g/f stay at my place?? the CSA won't give me a straight answer, all they say is as long as she in not contributing to my household!!
My g/f and me have decided to wait until my maintenance is finished until we set up home together as we can't afford to live together as the CSA will take her money aswell, I did speak to them about her moving in and was told they wouldn't tell me how much i would have to pay until after she had moved in!! I told them on the phone that if it is going to up then she will not move in!! rant over

kevin137

jarhead66 wrote: »

One thing i would like to know is how many nights can my g/f stay at my place?? the CSA won't give me a straight answer, all they say is as long as she in not contributing to my household!!

I would write and ask if using other government rules for amount of nights allowed to stay before being resident would in fact be within the guidelines of what the CSA legislation says on CSA1.

So if you local council housing officer says you could stay 5 nights before being classed a resident, then ask for that in writing... You fall under the boundaries of your local council to determine this as it is them that determine your council tax...

shegirl

I wouldn't have thought there would be a certain amount of overnight stays as long as she isn't actually living with you-it being her home.

Could you get a calculation done by someone so you'd have a rough idea?I wouldn't have thought it would make much difference unless your ex applied for departure based on housing costs which can bump it up quite a bit as I've discovered!(out of necessity for disabled son,not greed or spite-there are many things I'd like to do to the ex and his bit but that's a separate issue lol)

jarhead66 wrote: »

my ex used the CSA as a form of harassment i was getting reassed every few months, she was also phoning them up on a regular basis telling them that my g/f was living with me i had another job, all these letters where sent with the threat of a £1000 fine if i gave false information, why didn't they use the same threat with her?? When i asked the CSA why they where letting her use them as a form of harassment i was told that they where just doing there job!! Well i thought that excuse went out in 1945!! lol.
One thing i would like to know is how many nights can my g/f stay at my place?? the CSA won't give me a straight answer, all they say is as long as she in not contributing to my household!!
My g/f and me have decided to wait until my maintenance is finished until we set up home together as we can't afford to live together as the CSA will take her money aswell, I did speak to them about her moving in and was told they wouldn't tell me how much i would have to pay until after she had moved in!! I told them on the phone that if it is going to up then she will not move in!! rant over

jarhead66

The only information i was given by the CSA was that due to the fact that i am on CSA1 which uses income support rates as a guide line, that she could stay two nights as that rule also applies to someone who is on income support. I don't think that this is right as how can the CSA dictate who and for how long for someone stays at my property when i own that property!!

PreludeForTimeFeelers

jarhead66 wrote: »

The only information i was given by the CSA was that due to the fact that i am on CSA1 which uses income support rates as a guide line, that she could stay two nights as that rule also applies to someone who is on income support. I don't think that this is right as how can the CSA dictate who and for how long for someone stays at my property when i own that property!!

They're not dictating though, are they? They've made you aware that the reduction you currently get on your assessment may change if your girlfriend moves in. It's still entirely your decision on your own living arrangements.

seven-day-weekend

fishybusiness wrote: »

Really?

Imagine meeting the person of your dreams and setting up house together, only to find your children don't like your new partner.

Happened to me, only not a don't like, one of my kids didn't like, the other was ok. How to sort that out? Very difficult, and breaking a relationship for my kids, no, not really an option.

It was more about one of children wanting my partner out of the way because 'they already had a mummy'. It was a lot more difficult to sort out than simply putting them first. I wonder what 'first' really means?

Btw, it took three years for everything to settle down in our world.

(I'm not replying directly to you, fishybusiness, just that your post brought up a few thoughts).

I think there are ways of handling it so that the children don't think the step-parent is supplanting their natural parent. Not being expected to call them mum or dad unless they want to is important, not to take the new partner's name if they don't want to.

It goes without saying that not slagging the other parent off in front of the children is absolutely paramount.

I have no first-hand experience however, I must admit.

To the OP, I think your husband should pay at least what the law says. What his new wife thinks about it is immaterial.

I hope you get the desired result soon.

kevin137

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

To the OP, I think your husband should pay at least what the law says. What his new wife thinks about it is immaterial.

I hope you get the desired result soon.

It is slightly unfair to say this to ALL the people that use the CSA, as if you are on CSA1 then the CSA use the income that the new wife/partner earns to assess the ability of the person liable to pay CSA meaning that the new partner may in fact have very little to contribute to the household making things extremely difficult for a new relationship to survive.

I don't get how the DWP can have different advice to a local council as to overnight stays, there needs to be some transparency to this. If you are registered on council tax at a different address, your post goes to a different address and your furniture, most of your clothes/ possessions are at a different address, then legally you live at a different address regardless of how many nights you stay...

There are too many different views by the same government and government departments as to what living together actually is.

seven-day-weekend

[QUOTE=kevin137;56059365]It is slightly unfair to say this to ALL the people that use the CSA, as if you are on CSA1 then the CSA use the income that the new wife/partner earns to assess the ability of the person liable to pay CSA meaning that the new partner may in fact have very little to contribute to the household making things extremely difficult for a new relationship to survive.

I don't get how the DWP can have different advice to a local council as to overnight stays, there needs to be some transparency to this. If you are registered on council tax at a different address, your post goes to a different address and your furniture, most of your clothes/ possessions are at a different address, then legally you live at a different address regardless of how many nights you stay...

There are too many different views by the same government and government departments as to what living together actually is.[/QUOTE]

Oh yes, I don't think the new spouse's income should be counted. That IS unfair. I just meant that if she didn't like what the law said the husband had to pay, then that was immaterial, he should still pay it.

shegirl

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Oh yes, I don't think the new spouse's income should be counted. That IS unfair. I just meant that if she didn't like what the law said the husband had to pay, then that was immaterial, he should still pay it.

In many cases having it included (via departure,not sure how else it is included) is needed.That's because that system doesn't work on percentages like te newer system does and it takes into account the nrps mortgage/rent,gives a personal allowance for both the nrp and partner as living costs and gives a higher allowance for new children BEFORE they can calculate the maintenance.So,without it,the NRP would be taken as having full financial responsibility for the house,partner and child (which is very rarely the case) which could leave many non resident kids with nothing

shegirl

jarhead66 wrote: »

The only information i was given by the CSA was that due to the fact that i am on CSA1 which uses income support rates as a guide line, that she could stay two nights as that rule also applies to someone who is on income support. I don't think that this is right as how can the CSA dictate who and for how long for someone stays at my property when i own that property!!

I could be wrong,but aren't you already paying 30%?I'm sure you've said that before and I remember you pay quite a bit (wasn't it a little over £100 a month?).If so,surely they couldn't take more anyway as the limit is 30% of your income and they can only take more if there are arrears?