Single mum bein hounded

likelyfran

Mupette wrote: »

so a child born to help keep mum on benefits, not made from love and born into a loving stable family that can afford the baby

Reread my post - "correct motivations for having a child aside".

The first point of my post is that people should not 'advise' on here based on judgement rather than fact.

likelyfran

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

Ideal, if she has the means to do so, or a partner to support her. Not so ideal when she has to rely on the state to bring her child/ren up.

The state offers the money, why shouldn't she take it?

likelyfran

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

Are you suggesting she attends school with the child?

Ha, no, I meant spend the time she can. And she DID say she wanted a p/t job that would fit in with this. Fair enough, I think. Surely a mother's most important job is mothering?

pickpocketlocket

likelyfran wrote: »

Ha, no, I meant spend the time she can. And she DID say she wanted a p/t job that would fit in with this. Fair enough, I think. Surely a mother's most important job is mothering?

Yes, it is, and part of that is setting a good example. The child will not suffer just because mum is not there at 3pm everyday!

Murphy_Gooner

likelyfran wrote: »

Ha, no, I meant spend the time she can. And she DID say she wanted a p/t job that would fit in with this. Fair enough, I think. Surely a mother's most important job is mothering?

Exactly.
As i have mentioned, she could probably initially be better off getting onto some courses and volunteering too help build her confidence.

Thing people have too remember is that its easy judging someone when you dont know the full facts or know anything of this person. How does that make you any better of a person then her?

Whats needed is people need help and guidance and actually have something more easily accessable so people can learn skills

Murphy_Gooner

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

Yes, it is, and part of that is setting a good example. The child will not suffer just because mum is not there at 3pm everyday!

So what would you have her do? she has stated the job entailed her to be working until 7pm
You can expect a single mother to be working until 7pm and the child not having her mother there too have her dinner ready and have her ready for bed.

What she needs is a job which she cant work 5 days a week 9am - 2:30pm which would be more then ideal
Lets not forget, the child has a father who should be paying his way aswell so the mother does have alot of expectations on herself.

DaisyFlower

This is why there should be no child related benefits or extra paid when going on to have more children with no intenion of supporting them.

I would imagine the OP has had 5 years on IS, plenty of time to update their skills and find a job they like. Given thats more than 4 years longer than maternity pay that most mothers get then moaning that they are now being presured to work is a tad ungrateful to say the least.

I truly hope its a wind up, bringing a child into the world to gain money and to get out of working is so very wrong.

tomtom256

DaisyFlower wrote: »

This is why there should be no child related benefits or extra paid when going on to have more children with no intenion of supporting them.

I would imagine the OP has had 5 years on IS, plenty of time to update their skills and find a job they like. Given thats more than 4 years longer than maternity pay that most mothers get then moaning that they are now being presured to work is a tad ungrateful to say the least.

I truly hope its a wind up, bringing a child into the world to gain money and to get out of working is so very wrong.

But alas seems to be the way of the world in today's society.

Bogof_Babe

likelyfran wrote: »

The state offers the money, why shouldn't she take it?

:eek: I'm almost lost for words at that comment :eek:.

The state currently appears to be doing everything it can to get this young woman OFF its books and into gainful employment. Hardly "offering" her money.

On a broader basis, "the state" (i.e. taxpaying workers who would much rather spend their own money) is currently making valiant efforts to dismantle the entitlement culture that so many people seem to feel is an option these days.

If I was on benefits I don't think I'd sleep at night, because what you can claim today might be whipped away tomorrow.

banner188

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

:eek: I'm almost lost for words at that comment :eek:.

The state currently appears to be doing everything it can to get this young woman OFF its books and into gainful employment. Hardly "offering" her money.

On a broader basis, "the state" (i.e. taxpaying workers who would much rather spend their own money) is currently making valiant efforts to dismantle the entitlement culture that so many people seem to feel is an option these days.

If I was on benefits I don't think I'd sleep at night, because what you can claim today might be whipped away tomorrow.

Most people never seem to focus on the fact that the vast majority of benefits are claimed by people who ARE working.
The main cause of this is companies paying bottom dollar minimum wage and at the same time making vast profits every year whilst paying 1% tax by storing it offshore. It's a great big swizz. Who is the real enemy? The OP's situation is just a drop in the ocean compared to the scandals goin on above it all.
The principle that people should be doing something towards supporting themselves is blatantly true, it is a given, but it is impossible to unravel from the vast coporate machine and say this person should do X and Y.

I think if the OP really wants a part time position to fit in better with her life then what is so bad about that in the great scheme of things??