delicate subject - abortion

Welshwoofs

marywooyeah wrote: »

peachyprice with respect I was forced to have an abortion and I resent your use of inverted commas to trivialise what happened to me. you were not there, you do not know what happened to me therefore I would be grateful if you would refrain from making assumptions.

Mary, I don't know your story, but how were you forced? That does seem to imply you were being physically restrainted whilst a medical procedure was carried out upon you without your consent. Do you actually mean pressured (emotionally) to have an abortion you didn't want to have?

amus

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

But, if left for 9 months, your yogurt won't enter this world crying, start to learn to walk, talk and love and grow into a living, breathing (hopefully) productive member of society - those 'cells' at the beginning of a pregnancy would if given the chance.

No matter how you try to sell this to yourself, the fact is that abortion is ending a life. Those 'cells' would have carried on developing into a baby, child and adult. Otherwise, why the need for the procedure?

No, if left for 9 months if the mother takes action to preserve the peganancy, avoiding certain activities, eating, drinking, giving birth a baby will enter the world. If left it will not learn to walk, it will not talk and love and grow. It would die.

Babies need nurturing, love and attention, its up to the woman to choose whether she wants to go through with that. I would suggest that if she doesnt it is probably better for all involved to end the potential life before it is born.

amus

marywooyeah wrote: »

What is "really low" about it? You obviously have never suffered the loss of a child, I hope that you don't ever have to go through that.

As one who has suffered the loss of a relatively early pregnancy, and someone who has living children, I can categorically state that the pregnancy I lost was in no way my child (it was potentially my child) and I was in no way its mother.

If you want to think of your lost preganancy as a child and view yourself as its mother that is fine for you but it doesnt mean everybody else wants or needs to.

Mrs_Arcanum

marywooyeah wrote: »

yes I agree with what you are saying and have always said that I hope what happened to me is not representative of the majority of abortions. I also agree that comparing abortion to rape is not possible.

peachyprice with respect I was forced to have an abortion and I resent your use of inverted commas to trivialise what happened to me. you were not there, you do not know what happened to me therefore I would be grateful if you would refrain from making assumptions. Furthermore, I have never said that anyone should feel the way I do so not sure why you have said that.

Until you can face the truth of how you feel about your own actions or lack thereof you will be unable to move forward. In this respect peachyprice is correct in saying you still had a choice but you chose not to refuse the abortion. Vent your anger on the people who you say forced this decision upon you. Not the abortion itself.

Abortion is a very personal procedure and will affect everyone differently. Most of the guilt is aggravated by those closest to us or those people with horror stories fed to the vulnerable who are in an emotionally susceptible stage.

MissKeith

I don't think there's any such thing as pro-life. I prefer to refer to these individuals as anti-choice. My body, my uterus, my choice. End of.

Person_one

MissKeith wrote: »

I don't think there's any such thing as pro-life. I prefer to refer to these individuals as anti-choice. My body, my uterus, my choice. End of.

Quite agree.

poet123

If however, you belong to certain religious groups the two are not mutually exclusive. In fact they are not mutually exclusive fullstop.

I should say I don't belong to such a group before that charge is levelled at me. I just make the point in the interests of balance, and to the counteract the somewhat emotive poster above.

taxi36

marywooyeah wrote: »

I thought you were the girl's father? Not sure if perhaps you are just using the account to post this or whether it has been you all along, but I am so glad you kept your baby and are enjoying motherhood xxx

Hiya Marywooyeah. Yes , this is my Dad's account. Im just using it to post.

All the posts on this thread have been made by me.

I am enjoying being a Mummy very much thanks. My Son is such a happy baby so it makes it much easier. I also have lots of help lol .

Toni x

Torry_Quine

marywooyeah wrote: »

yes, you did have a baby. you will always be that child's mother.

your last comment is utterly pedantic and you know it - this is exactly why I will continue to pray for you.

You do yourself no favours continually telling others how they should feel about an abortion experience. Everyone is different and although its sad that you had a bad experience to others being pregnant was merely an inconvenience to be got rid of. No amount of emotive language from you will change that. Also telling somone who has expressed a wish that you don't pray that you will continue to pray isn't helpful.

Person_one wrote: »

Quite agree.

Absolutely agree. I also think you can't really call yourself pro-life and support the death penalty or anything else which ends a life deliberately. Caring for and helping all people in need is what it should mean.

patacake58

Torry_Quine wrote: »

You do yourself no favours continually telling others how they should feel about an abortion experience. Everyone is different and although its sad that you had a bad experience to others being pregnant was merely an inconvenience to be got rid of. No amount of emotive language from you will change that. Also telling somone who has expressed a wish that you don't pray that you will continue to pray isn't helpful.

No need to be so harsh.
If mary wants to pray for someone who has no belief in god its not going to harm them surely?
It may actually help mary to do this, i dont think its meant as an insult.
What exactly does the person think is going to happen to them if she prays for them?