Opinions Please - Work Issue.

HeatherintheHills

Northern_Princess wrote: »

I have decided to speak with my Team Leader tomorrow about it unofficially and leave it up to him. I just don't understand why she is acting this way now as these things have never been an issue in the past and I do not want to be ranted at regarding other peoples leave entitlements.

Your opinions have given me a lot to think about as well. Perhaps I'm just too acommodating at work

Ahhhh, if she wasn't always like this something else is wrong. Menopause? It turned me from a mild mannered woman into a screaming banshee for a few years.

GobbledyGook

Northern_Princess wrote: »

I think you're probably right. I intend to tomorrow.

I hope it's something easily sorted for you all. There's nothing worse than working in an atmosphere.

The Mum hasn't used the other woman's cup has she? That used to be enough to cause WWIII at my old place :rotfl:

Northern_Princess

GobbledyGook wrote: »

I hope it's something easily sorted for you all. There's nothing worse than working in an atmosphere.

The Mum hasn't used the other woman's cup has she? That used to be enough to cause WWIII at my old place :rotfl:

This made me smile, thank you . I will enquire into illicit cup usage tomorrow!

HeatherintheHills wrote: »

Ahhhh, if she wasn't always like this something else is wrong. Menopause? It turned me from a mild mannered woman into a screaming banshee for a few years.

I suppose it could be, she's 49, so it's a possibility. I won't mention it to her though, I may get my head ripped off :eek:

Janepig

HeatherintheHills wrote: »

So you do expect priority. It gets worse, you have just said that you think non parents book the school holidays out of spite?

Now have you any idea how selfish and arrogant you sound right now? What other people do with their holidays and when they take them is for them to decide, not you :mad:

Yes, I suppose I do "expect", because, as mentioned in other posts, I work in a team where I am the only person who "needs" to take school holidays. I have worked with my colleagues for a long time, and know that they have no problem with this, and as I said, I have taken 3 weeks off this summer holiday (two weeks, then one week), and usually take one week at easter, and two days out of the three half terms. Plenty left for the others to take. Christmas is shared as it's special to all of us, and in fact the childless person I work with has had just about every Christmas off in living memory!! How is that selfish and arrogant tell me?

However, I'm shortly moving to a different team where there are at least two other people of my grade who have school age children, so I know I won't get first dibs which I do now, it'll have to be worked out between us. I know that I'm not selfish, I've done my bit before I had children, I know I don't cause my current colleagues any problems, fact.

And what I said about the childless taking time off out of spite was "But does that mean that those who don't NEED to take time off in the school holidays should take it anyway out of spite? In your case I guess it does" - which was a direct reply to the poster who said that the fact I limit myself to taking leave at school holiday times was my choice, my problem. But again, fwiw, I would not be able to understand the motives of someone who could otherwise take leave away from school holiday time, but would decide not to, at the detriment of those with children. Of course they should be entitled to if they wish, and it would otherwise be none of my business, but in all conciousness that is not something I could do and I do think it would be spiteful.

If there's anyone sounding selfish and arrogant and indeed bitter on this thread it's the non parents.

Jx

Janepig

dizziblonde wrote: »

It's good to see when someone disagrees with you you just resort to hurling abuse. Always the way of someone winning the discussion.

Hurling abuse? "Wind your neck in"? Blimey, you've had a sheltered life :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:.

Jx

PS: I wasn't "discussing", I was just giving my opinion. It's allowed, even by the Thought Police on MSE, last time I looked.

Janepig

Northern_Princess wrote: »

I suppose it could be, she's 49, so it's a possibility. I won't mention it to her though, I may get my head ripped off :eek:

If she's sitting there with a fan blasting away at her from her desk, then it's the menopause :rotfl::rotfl: Got it all coming to me in the not too distant future!!

Jx

Humphrey10

Janepig wrote: »

Oh this is a subject that has you all crawling out from under your rocks doesn't it? Obviously I can take any of the 52 weeks a year, and yes it was my problem that I decided to procreate and fill the world with more children it doesn't need, but as I said, there is little point in me taking time off other than in the school holidays. But does that mean that those who don't NEED to take time off in the school holidays should take it anyway out of spite? In your case I guess it does.

My god, you appear to hate me.

You say I 'crawled out from under [a] rock'. Do you mean I am some kind of insect or reptile or rodent? I can't think of anything else that crawls and lives under rocks. What a horrible thing to say to someone.

You say I would take time off in school holidays 'out of spite'. Why would you think that, you have no idea when I book my holidays.

Why do you hate me so much?

I have made one post in this thread, pointing out that everyone has 52 weeks in which to take holiday, and some people might make the personal choice to restrict it to less than 52 weeks, but if they do that is their own choice, their own problem. That's true. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that.

Janepig

Humphrey10 wrote: »

My god, you appear to hate me.

You say I 'crawled out from under [a] rock'. Do you mean I am some kind of insect or reptile or rodent? I can't think of anything else that crawls and lives under rocks. What a horrible thing to say to someone.

You say I would take time off in school holidays 'out of spite'. Why would you think that, you have no idea when I book my holidays.

Why do you hate me so much?

I have made one post in this thread, pointing out that everyone has 52 weeks in which to take holiday, and some people might make the personal choice to restrict it to less than 52 weeks, but if they do that is their own choice, their own problem. That's true. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that.

Have I said anything that goes against that? I restrict myself to school holidays, I could take the rest of the year, but I don't.

Can't be bothered to reply to the "why do you hate me" nonsense. I'm not going to waste my energy hating people on the internet who I don't even know. I just think the tone of your post left alot to be desired.

**Patty**

Humphrey10 wrote: »

My god, you appear to hate me.

You say I 'crawled out from under [a] rock'. Do you mean I am some kind of insect or reptile or rodent? I can't think of anything else that crawls and lives under rocks. What a horrible thing to say to someone.

You say I would take time off in school holidays 'out of spite'. Why would you think that, you have no idea when I book my holidays.

Why do you hate me so much?

I have made one post in this thread, pointing out that everyone has 52 weeks in which to take holiday, and some people might make the personal choice to restrict it to less than 52 weeks, but if they do that is their own choice, their own problem. That's true. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that.

Ever tried getting permission for a child in year 9 or above to take a family holiday in term time?
That's not choice. Choice is for me to take them away when I want to.......not when the LEA gives me permission to. Works the same for those in the education profession.

Humphrey10

Janepig wrote: »

Have I said anything that goes against that? I restrict myself to school holidays, I could take the rest of the year, but I don't.

Can't be bothered to reply to the "why do you hate me" nonsense. I'm not going to waste my energy hating people on the internet who I don't even know. I just think the tone of your post left alot to be desired.

Yes, you said you only had 13 weeks availble to take holiday, and people without children had 52:

Janepig wrote:

So whereas my child free colleagues have 52 weeks a year available to them, I have around 13 (off the top of my head).

You said I "crawled out from under a rock" and took holidays in term time "out of spite" and you say the tone of MY post left a lot to be desired??? I measly pointed out that what you said was not true, you do not only have 13 weeks a year available to you - you CHOOSE to restrict you holidays to those 13 weeks. That's just a statement of fact, please explain what part of it you think isn't true?