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Trying for a Baby Part 8

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  • an9i77
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    lilymay1 wrote: »
    Claire - Clomid should work straight away. I have a 3 month supply of 100mg. I know a lot of FS's don't bother with it after 3 months because the chances of success after that time are dramatically decreased. If it's going to work, it will do in the first few months after you take it.

    Angii - Great news about your blood tests. Let's hope for better things next month.


    Lily do you mean that if its going to work it will do in the first few months as in - if it is going to make you ovulate it will do this in the first few months.

    Because to truly work, as in make a baby, may well take longer than three months as the ovulation is only the first step.

    Just checking what you meant as I've been on it three months now and no BFP but ovulated 2/3.
  • an9i77
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    A question for you all - I can understand that it's totally inappropriate to ask people if they are going to have children/why they havent' got children etc BUT do you think it is inappropriate to ask someone you don't know very well if they've got children?

    When I came back from maternity leave last year, so was naturally talking about my baby when I came back, there was a new girl who'd joined the team and I asked her if she had kids herself. She said 'oh no I'm not very maternal'.

    I later found out that she had been TTC for two years and had fertility problems but just told everyone she wasn't maternal to avoid answering any questions.

    If i'd had asked her if she wanted children, I would have understood this was inappropriate, but I felt really bad that she'd said that to me just from me asking if she had children.

    So, particularly those who've been trying a while, was that inappropriate or do you think she was just being over sensitive?
  • Birdie85
    Birdie85 Posts: 9,330 Forumite
    edited 24 January 2013 at 3:07PM
    Angi, I think she was possibly being a little over-sensitive. :) When you meet new people it's not really inappropriate/unusual (IMO) to ask if they're married or have kids, they're fairly standard questions that I had to answer a hundred times when I first started every in job I've worked in! :) If someone starts prying as to *why* you don't have kids then yes, it is inappropriate! As are the comments like 'You'll be next' that I get from people every time someone goes on maternity leave! :o

    When I first started my new job (same company, different office/role) I'd just got married so my name changed at the same time and the girl doing the name change for me on the system came breezing over and said, 'Marriage or divorce?!' :rotfl: I still tease her about that one! :p

    ETA: There's a lady on my team who is in her late 40s and childless yet loves kids so I can only assume that she and her DH *couldn't* have kids; I'd like to know the story but can't ever bring myself to ask because if that's the case it's an awful thing to casually bring up in conversation! :o
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  • retepetsir
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    maire1 wrote: »
    Hi!

    I'm type 1 too! I'd recommend a diabetic pre conception clinic if you haven't already been. They help you get your hba1c within recommended levels and give advice for maintaining the tight control you need in pregnancy. They helped me get mine from 108 to 37! It's not easy but it's totally worth it!

    Thanks for that. Unfortunately in our area they don't provide pre-conception diabetes clinics and only start assisting once you're confirmed pregnant, by which time the damage could be done :(.

    She's got hers much more under control now but it's not overly easy with her shift work so we'll keep at it.

    That's a massive change in HbA1c, well done! She's just had her latest one and it's come back as 5.9 (about 40) which is great considering it was 8 (64) this time last year.

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  • nessie216
    nessie216 Posts: 839 Forumite
    12DPO here

    Annoyed because AF isn't here & BFN this morning - although i swear i could see a very very very faint line - i think that is just my optimisim showing!

    I suppose i should be lucky that i am ovulating at all - dr did say it could take years after being on depo for 8+ years!

    I can still hope that if AF isn't here tomorrow i can POAS again and the 'line' could be darker . . .
  • lilymay1
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    an9i77 wrote: »
    Lily do you mean that if its going to work it will do in the first few months as in - if it is going to make you ovulate it will do this in the first few months.

    Because to truly work, as in make a baby, may well take longer than three months as the ovulation is only the first step.

    Just checking what you meant as I've been on it three months now and no BFP but ovulated 2/3.

    No, I mean if it's going to help you get pregnant it will do in the first few months. Success rates drop dramatically after the first 3 months of use, presumably because that shows ovulation is only 1 of many issues and clomid alone can not solve the others.

    That's not to say people don't get pregnant on the 4th or 5th rounds, but it's never prescribed for more than 6 months because of the associated side effects with long-term use. And it also clearly isn't working!

    This is why it usually takes 12 months plus of trying before you see a fertility specialist and even then FS's only prescribe it after they have ruled out other potential issues like blocked/damaged tubes, problems with the uterus or male factor issues.
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  • an9i77
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    Hi Lily

    I understand what you're saying, but my doctor told me that if clomid worked it would only give you the same chances as a healthy/fertile/ovulating woman which as we all know can easily take 6 months to get pregnant naturally.

    So if I don't get pg with clomid after three months is this not similar to a healthy woman who doesn't get pregnant after three months?

    ie luck is a massive factor?
  • jovie
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    Sorry i havent had a chance to read up on the last couple of days just wanted to drop in to be update to cd1 I'm gutted, really thought we were in with a chance this cycle :(

    Off for a couple of nights away with OH so although there will be no BDing for fun because of the witch's ill timed visit, i'm going to try and forget about it all for a few days and just enjoy being together.
  • TeamLowe
    TeamLowe Posts: 2,406 Forumite
    edited 24 January 2013 at 6:43PM
    Clomid does increase the chances-'normal' couples have 25% each cycle, with Clomid it's 34% due to the increase in quality and quantity of eggs released. plus being monitored would mean you'd be able to know when follicles are ready to burst, the best way of detecting ovulation

    The three cycle thing has actually comforted me, in that if it doesn't work I can move quickly on to the next thing but also the stupid optimist in me thinks 'well if I get Clomid in March I could reasonably expect to be pregnant by summer'
    Does someone have a hammer to whack me with? Lol x x

    Big hugs jovie, hope you and DH have a lovely trip x x
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  • an9i77
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    TeamLowe wrote: »
    Clomid does increase the chances-'normal' couples have 25% each cycle, with Clomid it's 34% due to the increase in quality and quantity of eggs released. plus being monitored would mean you'd be able to know when follicles are ready to burst, the best way of detecting ovulation

    The three cycle thing has actually comforted me, in that if it doesn't work I can move quickly on to the next thing but also the stupid optimist in me thinks 'well if I get Clomid in March I could reasonably expect to be pregnant by summer'
    Does someone have a hammer to whack me with? Lol x x

    Big hugs jovie, hope you and DH have a lovely trip x x


    I don't know if you can 'reasonably expect to be pregnant' on clomid. That is very optimistic! I'm not at all confident it will work just because I know there are lots of factors apart from ovulation that affect the pregnancy. It's a big lottery, even if you're healthy/fertile. I heard that something like 75% of all fertilised eggs don't make it, as the implantation process is where a lot of it goes wrong and/or very early miscarriage.

    Then again, by nature I'm a defensive pessimist so I'm not optimistic about much at all!
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