Pre empting noisy neighbour and asking them to keep it down?

Idiophreak

masonn wrote: »

You have a right to silence but other people have no right to make a bit of noise.

...At the expense of the quiet enjoyment of my own home? No, I don't think they have the right to make that "bit of noise".

masonn wrote: »

Your view of selfish is anyone who doesn't think like you do.

No, my view of selfish is someone who puts their own enjoyment ahead of the enjoyment of other people. Which I think is more or less the definition of "selfish".

masonn wrote: »

Not so much selfish as hypocritical as you value peace and quiet so much yourself.

Of course I do. As do most people. I love to sleep in a nice quiet room, or have some peace when I'm reading or working on a hard problem on the computer...I like being able to whisper to my wife.

I also, however, love noise. I love to game, watch movies and listen to (often regrettable) music at volume. I love to do sports, and would love to get a turbo trainer for my bike, a treadmill or a rowing machine in the flat. However, I refrain from these things as they'd prevent my neighbours from having the quiet I mention above.

In time, I'll afford a detached house, and I'll do all these things - happy in the knowledge that my neighbours won't be impacted by my lifestyle choices. Until then, I view it as a regrettable side-effect of my poverty that I have to keep noise to a minimum out of consideration for other people.

NewKittenHelp

Idiophreak wrote: »

...At the expense of the quiet enjoyment of my own home? No, I don't think they have the right to make that "bit of noise".



No, my view of selfish is someone who puts their own enjoyment ahead of the enjoyment of other people. Which I think is more or less the definition of "selfish".



Of course I do. As do most people. I love to sleep in a nice quiet room, or have some peace when I'm reading or working on a hard problem on the computer...I like being able to whisper to my wife.

I also, however, love noise. I love to game, watch movies and listen to (often regrettable) music at volume. I love to do sports, and would love to get a turbo trainer for my bike, a treadmill or a rowing machine in the flat. However, I refrain from these things as they'd prevent my neighbours from having the quiet I mention above.

In time, I'll afford a detached house, and I'll do all these things - happy in the knowledge that my neighbours won't be impacted by my lifestyle choices. Until then, I view it as a regrettable side-effect of my poverty that I have to keep noise to a minimum out of consideration for other people.

Out of interests, just what would you do about natural noise keeping you awake at the silly hour of 10am on a Saturday morning? Shoot the birds? Blow up a distant motorway?

I suppose you have to ask yourself whether it's reasonable for you to expect silence from all others around you on a Saturday morning? It doesn't seem that reasonable to me.

FBaby

thatgirlsam wrote: »

People do have the right to make 'normal' noise in daytime hours!

But according to OP, it is more than 'normal' noice the neighbour makes, that's the issue. As the neighbour took it well, it is likely their definition of 'normal noise' is seemingly similar, it would probably have started war if it wasn't.

thatgirlsam

FBaby wrote: »

But according to OP, it is more than 'normal' noice the neighbour makes, that's the issue. As the neighbour took it well, it is likely their definition of 'normal noise' is seemingly similar, it would probably have started war if it wasn't.

Yeah I guess people screaming in the garden for hours isn't exactly normal! :rotfl:

If it is just children playing and being a bit loud then I would say that's normal. I like to hear my neighbours 'happy noise'. What I do not want to hear is the sound of them sh4gging or having a domestic! Both normal noises too though I spose!

cte1111

I think as a one off it is fine. If my next door neighbours asked as a favour if we could keep as quiet as possible because they were ill / had an exam / recovering from a late shift then I think I would be OK with it. I'd be a bit surprised but not upset or resentful. If I was asked regularly then it might be more of an issue. My main aim would be not to fall out the neighbours really so don't mind a small sacrifice for this.

NB I might then ask them at some point to keep the noise down and would be less tolerant of a late night party perhaps.

thatgirlsam

cte1111 wrote: »

I think as a one off it is fine. If my next door neighbours asked as a favour if we could keep as quiet as possible because they were ill / had an exam / recovering from a late shift then I think I would be OK with it. I'd be a bit surprised but not upset or resentful. If I was asked regularly then it might be more of an issue. My main aim would be not to fall out the neighbours really so don't mind a small sacrifice for this.

NB I might then ask them at some point to keep the noise down and would be less tolerant of a late night party perhaps.

Very good point there. Once you have asked your neighbours to keep their noise down you had better be planning to keep quiet yourselves for a long while!

Cat501

It always amazes me that people who like peace and quiet seem to think they should have it their own way 100% of the time. Surely those people are putting their enjoyment ahead of the enjoyment of others? Doesn't their refusal to compromise make them the selfish ones?

FBaby

Where does it stop though? Can I spend all day farting in my office and stinking the place, but consider it is ok because it makes ME feel better and it is my right to relief gas and pressure to my stomach? Can I expect everyone to take on the smell and complain they are selfish if they don't?

mummyroysof3

i think it comes down to the difference between normal noise and excessive noise. kids laughing and playing is ok but my son has a habit of screaming and shouting from the bottom of the very long garden cos he cant be bothered to come to house to speak to me and that isnt on and he gets told off for it

FBaby

Something to do with the rule of majority: If you are working shift but decide to live right next door a school, you can't really expect the head teacher to keep all the kids quiet in the morning because someone next door is trying to sleep. Similarly, a family with 10 children moving next to a retirement village can't expect the neighbours to get all excited at the joy of seeing and hearing lively children all day long...