Sister got a dog....Update

rising_from_the_ashes

Shepherd I'm not 100% sure either - seems to be conflicting info around but from the following link - lungworm prevention isn't mentioned for Advocate http://www.medicanimal.com/setSessionLocale/product?product_id=16&newLocale=en_GB

I did come across this one that says it's effective against lungworm but not heard of it before http://www.viovet.co.uk/Non-Prescription_Medicines-Dogs-Wormers-Granofen/c119_13_121_3832/category.html

Maisie is being done with Drontal atm but can't see it mentioning lungworm.....

Shepherd1

rising_from_the_ashes wrote: »

Shepherd I'm not 100% sure either - seems to be conflicting info around but from the following link - lungworm prevention isn't mentioned for Advocate http://www.medicanimal.com/setSessionLocale/product?product_id=16&newLocale=en_GB

I did come across this one that says it's effective against lungworm but not heard of it before http://www.viovet.co.uk/Non-Prescription_Medicines-Dogs-Wormers-Granofen/c119_13_121_3832/category.html

Maisie is being done with Drontal atm but can't see it mentioning lungworm.....

Thank you rising, I just use advocate once a month as my vet said that was all that is required. I am worried now incase its not.

Fire_Fox

According to the feline pack insert Advocate covers heartworm disease and nematodes (microscopic worms IIRC from uni) so you need to use another wormer once every so often. My vet prescribed Profender on top which covers roundworms, hookworms, tapeworms, lungworms - could be different product for a dog tho. AFAIK monthly de-fleaing protects from some worms indirectly because the eggs are spread by fleas.

Fire_Fox

"Advocate not only treats parasite infections, but monthly treatment can help protect your dog against fleas, heartworm, gastrointestinal worms, mites and lice.

An easy-to-use spot-on application, Advocate acts on multiple stages of parasites to treat infections faster and sustain protection longer.

Why choose Advocate?

• Advocate provides fast relief from fleas
Stops fleas biting in 3-5 minutes. (1)
Kills fleas on contact without the need to bite, which means no irritation, no scratching and no Flea Allergy Dermatitis (FAD).
Dead fleas can’t transmit flea tapeworm.

• Advocate prevents deadly heartworm
The active ingredient (moxidectin) enters your pet’s bloodstream and with monthly use will prevent heartworm infection in dogs.

• Advocate protects your pet and family from gastrointestinal worms
Advocate clears up infections quickly by killing up to 100% of adult, immature and larval stages of hookworm, roundworm and whipworm while reducing environmental contamination.."
http://www.bayeranimal.com.au/default.aspx?Page=50&ItemId=38

Barneysmom

He is so pretty, I love him!
Well done you for taking him on.

I'd say to always feed him at the same time every day.
Barney and his sister have their breakfast of toast with tuna first thing, then get their scooby snack (a dental stick) about 4.00pm then dinner at 5 o'clock.
Giving them a routine is best thing really
A few times a week I give them both a carrot each which they love and think they are getting something special

The furminator is brillaint, Barney has one aand loves having his hair done.
The grooming parlour Barney found traumatic and shouted all the way home then all evening he had a big sulk!
So I bought him his own rechargable clippers (£45! yikes but that's how much the parlour charge for a haircut).
We take him down the park to cut his hair then after he's trimmed he goes for a swim

Fire_Fox

Barneysmom wrote: »

So I bought him his own rechargable clippers (£45! yikes but that's how much the parlour charge for a haircut).
We take him down the park to cut his hair then after he's trimmed he goes for a swim

Nesting birds will love you!

Buttonmoons

Funny that because after I cut all her back end I threw all the hair outside for the birds :rotfl: The neighbours 12 week old kitten (don't even get me STARTED on how that shouldn't be out and I know fine it hasn't had it's injections - they are druggies) well it comes to my mums a lot (because I feed it....and their other cat...) it was having a go at the dog today, all fluffed up and hissing and growling, still came in for a dreamie though :rotfl:

The dog lived with cats so it's totally fine with them (which is handy if it ever needs to come to mine since I have 3 furballs!) I'm going down to Pets @ home on Saturday to stock up on a few toys, some decent dry food and will see what wet food is available too, even if its just mixing a little bit in (gradual swap) I added a little bit of tuna in sunflower oil (to improve her coat) today with her dry and she scoffed the lot, she doesn't seem to like the biscuits as she picks certain ones out and spits the rest out.

I have a furminator for my cats which is medium sized, so might bring it up and use it on the dog until I order a large sized dog one for it. The neighbours dog is an uncastrated male and it slipped it's lead today to get to her, its some sort of minature jack russell so couldn't of got anywhere near where it needed to be without 10 yellow pages to stand on, but have drummed it into my sister that she must not be left unattended.

I rang up PDSA and they won't divulge any sort of details, but if we register the dog at another vets then they can share that information with that vet. I might just add some odourless garlic capsules to the dogs food to deter fleas (it doesn't have any) will get some Drontal for worm issues.


We live in the North east of Scotland so not sure if that is rife for anything at the moment? (Aberdeen area) The dog came with nail clippers and her nails are a bit clacky but not excessively long (might seem worse as its wooden floors) I don't wanna touch her nails myself as I haven't a clue what to do, will plenty of walking trim them down naturally?

Taking my friends husky over for her to play with on Saturday (she's a female so no puppy issues :rotfl:) as they are both very dog orientated errr dogs :rotfl:

She is a bit whiffy, like overly dog smell, is there a certain type of shampoo to be used? I was going to use baby shampoo but wasn't sure if that would be bad (I figure since it was once upon a time probably tested on an animal and designed to be highly gentle for babies it would be ok?) Plus it smells right lush!

My ex came over to my mums and was enthralled by the dog, he said if it doesn't work out at my mums then he would take her (he's very dog orientated) as I couldn't take her in as I'm in a skyscraper and that's not fair on the pooch. So, at least there is always a good home/backup, if my sister realises how much effort is involved with a dog - but I'm hoping she'll do okay, especially with my money.....*eye tic* lol

krlyr

Shepherd1 wrote: »

Sorry to butt in on the thread, but you have me worried now. I only use advocate as I thought it covered worms. Is this wrong?

rising_from_the_ashes wrote: »

Shepherd I'm not 100% sure either - seems to be conflicting info around but from the following link - lungworm prevention isn't mentioned for Advocate

There are no preventative treatments for lungworm - you use Advocate to treat for any current infection, in high risk areas you would use it monthly so basically always be treating for an infection once a month. Panacur will, again, treat an infection and Milbemax claims to reduce (but not cure) an infection.
Advocate does everything except tapeworm, I raw-feed so that's why I like to have the reassurance of covering tapeworm (though I do tend to freeze all their meat beforehand to cover against parasites), but only bother once or twice a year really.

Buttonmoons wrote: »

We live in the North east of Scotland so not sure if that is rife for anything at the moment? (Aberdeen area) The dog came with nail clippers and her nails are a bit clacky but not excessively long (might seem worse as its wooden floors) I don't wanna touch her nails myself as I haven't a clue what to do, will plenty of walking trim them down naturally?

Taking my friends husky over for her to play with on Saturday (she's a female so no puppy issues :rotfl:) as they are both very dog orientated errr dogs :rotfl:

She is a bit whiffy, like overly dog smell, is there a certain type of shampoo to be used? I was going to use baby shampoo but wasn't sure if that would be bad (I figure since it was once upon a time probably tested on an animal and designed to be highly gentle for babies it would be ok?) Plus it smells right lush!

The nails may need clipping or filing down - a vet or vet nurse may do this, or a groomer. I have a Dremel type tool to sand them down but I'm still getting the dogs used to the sound and feel of it at the moment! We do a fair bit of pavement walking at the moment but it hasn't worn Kiki's nails down completely so they do need a bit of extra help from me.

Be careful introducing another dog so soon, you don't want to overwhelm her with new experiences. It can be far better to let dogs meet on neutral ground, e.g. the local park, rather than bringing a dog into the house/garden. Parallel walking is great - don't let the dogs rush over and greet each other, but have them on lead and walk them parallel to each other, slowly decreasing the distance between them, until they seem settled enough to say hello.

Cheap dog foods can really contribute to a doggy odour so I'm sure a change in diet will greatly help. I use a dog shampoo from Ebay called "grime buster" or similar, designed for smelly dogs, as Kiki has a habit of rolling in fox poo! You dilute it quite a lot and I only ever use it if a damp cloth won't do the trick, so a bottle has lasted me ages. Many people will use baby shampoo but I've heard that although it's gentle for humans, the different pH levels of a dog's skin can cause it to irritate their skin.

Sooz00

She is gorgeous!

I've noticed Advocate has been mentioned quite a bit as a good flea/parasite treatment so I just wanted to note that if used with a collie/collie type, extra care should be taken. I've always tended to prefer using other products with collie fosters I've had in, just for peace of mind.

Extract taken from the NOAH compendium (http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/Bayer_plc/Advocate_Spot-on_Solution/-38249.html):

"During treatment with Advocate no other antiparasitic macrocyclic lactone should be administered. This product contains moxidectin (a macrocyclic lactone), therefore special care should be taken with Collies, Old English Sheepdogs and related breeds or crossbreeds, to correctly administer the product as described above. In particular, oral uptake by the recipient and/or other animals in close contact should be prevented.

Ivermectin-sensitive Collie dogs tolerated up to 5 times the recommended dose repeated at monthly intervals without any adverse effects, but the safety of application at weekly intervals has not been investigated in ivermectin-sensitive Collie dogs. When 40% of the unit dose was given orally, severe neurological signs were observed. Oral administration of 10% of the recommended dose produced no adverse effects."

Fire_Fox

I know this sounds harsh but given that you have another more suitable home lined up, maybe it would be best to leave your sister to sink or swim? Other than perhaps paying for a spay since otherwise you will have many dogs to home. I am assuming she won't let the dog starve and it is still better off than it was before.