Should children be banned from Aircraft?

ferf1223

t-elle wrote: »

Have you had your seat kicked for several hours and the wimpy parent says "I don't think you should do that, it might annoy the lady in front." then lets them carry on. (Yes I have asked nicely for them to stop)

yes...and the 'now, Timmy, don't do that...Timmy, you are really disappointing mummy' people...please...Timmy is 4...Timmy does not understand 'disappointing mummy'...especially not in that sickly sweet tone that sounds pretty indistict from 'does Timmy want an ice cream?'

I was rarely spanked as a child - very, very rarely...but one look from my mother would have had me sitting on the plane quietly for a very, very long time.

Personally I would like to vet anyone on the plane who might impact my flight in any way...child or adult.

Some kids are absolutely fine and I have no issue with them flying whatsoever so a total ban is obviously silly...but it is a total cop out to me (childless, yes) to say 'they are just kids...kids are kids, blahblahblah'...to some extent sure...briefly...but if they don't know how to behave in situations like this - if their parents haven't taught them this, then why should other passengers have to put up with them? If you choose to fly with your kids, which obviously many do, it's up to you to keep them in line...that's kind of your job as parents, isn't it?

And yes, I would give an exception to those kids who actually have some sort of disorder that means that they have difficulty knowing or understanding how to act in certain circumstances. I'm not a monster.

maemaesmummy

My kiddies have been flying for 9 + hours since 8 months of age, THEY know how to behave and indeed do on flights.

We fly BA Club or VA Upper class on a lot of flights and they are often complemented on their behaviour by other passengers.

Not the same can be said of some of the other oiks on board (usually in economy) who drink loads of booze "cos it's free" lol

dickydonkin

A topical message from my inbox today from Travelmole.

Passengers happy to pay more for child-free flights

A third of airline passengers would pay higher fares to ensure child-free flights, according to research.

Travel review site TripAdvisor found children are one of the biggest frustrations for those flying.

According to the survey of more than 2,000 Brits, 37% would be willing to pay higher fares for an adult-only flight.

22% of respondents claimed children kicking the back of seats was most annoying while 22% said their worst gripe was parents not controlling their kids.

Another faux pas, according to 29% of Britons, is inconsiderate seat recliners.

"Whether we can expect to see any airlines offering child-free flights in the future remains to be seen, but it's clearly a topic that fiercely divides opinion," said a spokesman for TripAdvisor.

I suspect the accuracy of those stats depends on the profile of the respondents.

If the majority who were questioned travelled primarily in economy then the reclining seats and brats kicking the seat in front would be more of an issue to them.

Passengers in J would be less likely to encounter those problems.

As for screaming brats - then no seat is immune from those!

Not the same can be said of some of the other oiks on board (usually in
economy) who drink loads of booze "cos it's free" lol

I can assure you there are 'oiks' that frequent the pointy end of the aircraft as well - it's just they don't usually wear Henley T shirts, a Burberry cap and brand new trainers!

bankhater_1965

maemaesmummy wrote: »

My kiddies have been flying for 9 + hours since 8 months of age, THEY know how to behave and indeed do on flights.

We fly BA Club or VA Upper class on a lot of flights and they are often complemented on their behaviour by other passengers.

Not the same can be said of some of the other oiks on board (usually in economy) who drink loads of booze "cos it's free" lol

i think the thread is about the poor economy common people cattle ranch style seating , not the toffee nosed champ drinkers who do as there told by mummy and daddy on upper deck on a va 747 !
by the way i have flown virgin atlantic upper deck to barbados and i can say its not worth the money !
value for money economy comes tops unless your a snob

dickydonkin

bankhater_1965 wrote: »

i think the thread is about the poor economy common people cattle ranch style seating , not the toffee nosed champ drinkers who do as there told by mummy and daddy on upper deck on a va 747 !
by the way i have flown virgin atlantic upper deck to barbados and i can say its not worth the money !
value for money economy comes tops unless your a snob

You think wrong - on many counts.

The thread is about children on an aircraft - (have a look at the title of the thread) - there is a clue there there is no reference to a particular cabin.

As I mentioned earlier, disruptive kids are not unique to the economy cabin.

I note that you flew upper class in VS - so does that make you a snob as well?

I can assure you that I am certainly not 'toffee nosed' and I have worked hard all of my life so I think I deserve to treat Mrs DD and myself to fly in the pointy end now and again - however, I will certainly enjoy my Champagne on my upcoming BA flight to Canada and the States later this month - cheers!

I have taken my kids all over the world - we never left them at home and my daughter was three months old when we took her to Hawaii and both my son and daughter behaved impeccably on their travels - I and their mother made sure of that - always in 'Y' class as that was all we could afford due to a mortgage and a young family to raise.

Now that we just travel as a couple as opposed to a family and all of the financial restraints that we had when we were younger are not an issue, we can now afford to splurge a little bit (there's no pockets in a shroud) and if you knew me, you would certainly soon find out that I am far from 'Toffee Nosed'

i think the thread is about the poor economy common people

You really need to get that chip off your shoulder.

bankhater_1965

dickydonkin wrote: »

You think wrong - on many counts.

The thread is about children on an aircraft - (have a look at the title of the thread) - there is a clue there there is no reference to a particular cabin.

As I mentioned earlier, disruptive kids are not unique to the economy cabin.

I note that you flew upper class in VS - so does that make you a snob as well?

I can assure you that I am certainly not 'toffee nosed' and I have worked hard all of my life so I think I deserve to treat Mrs DD and myself to fly in the pointy end now and again - however, I will certainly enjoy my Champagne on my upcoming BA flight to Canada and the States later this month - cheers!

I have taken my kids all over the world - we never left them at home and my daughter was three months old when we took her to Hawaii and both my son and daughter behaved impeccably on their travels - I and their mother made sure of that - always in 'Y' class as that was all we could afford due to a mortgage and a young family to raise.

Now that we just travel as a couple as opposed to a family and all of the financial restraints that we had when we were younger are not an issue, we can now afford to splurge a little bit (there's no pockets in a shroud) and if you knew me, you would certainly soon find out that I am far from 'Toffee Nosed'



You really need to get that chip off your shoulder.

haha and my post was not about you ! thanks for the comment anyway, i dont have any chip on my shoulder in anyway if you care to take the time to read previos posts on varios threads, my comment regards to the common people in economy is how most wealthy people see normal people otherwise they would fly economy and not first class ( you still get there at the same time just without the silver spoons) ,i only flew once upper deck soley because it was going very cheap at the check in desk and never traveled that way before like you say abit of the thread

dickydonkin

bankhater_1965 wrote: »

haha and my post was not about you ! thanks for the comment anyway, i dont have any chip on my shoulder in anyway if you care to take the time to read previos posts on varios threads, my comment regards to the common people in economy is how most wealthy people see normal people otherwise they would fly economy and not first class ( you still get there at the same time just without the silver spoons) ,i only flew once upper deck soley because it was going very cheap at the check in desk and never traveled that way before like you say abit of the thread

Ha Ha - well you generalised that those who travel in business class are snobs and toffee nosed - so as I do fly in that particular cabin (and economy), then in effect you were directing your comments at me and many others and I was attempting to educate you that not all people should be stereotyped into the categories you describe.

Your comments highlight your ignorace and parochial views.

The reality is that (excluding the bucket and spade routes) the majority of those flying in the premium cabins are on corporate tickets and have not forked out the thousands it can cost for a long haul route.

Why do you keep referring to 'The common people in economy'? No chip on your shoulder eh?

A friend of mine is a multi millionaire and owns masses of land, but he flies economy on numerous occasions to attain status points to upgrade. Very MSE in my opinion. I can assure you he is not toffee nosed or a snob - he has just worked hard all of his life.

Anyway, I have already wasted too much time of my life on you comments which I will never get back - so that is my lot in responding to your generalised drivel.

peachyprice

Perhaps we should really be debating 'Should parents who can't control their children be banned from aircraft?' as from replies this seems to be the crux of the problem.

Or even 'Should people who assume all children will misbehave on flights be banned from aircraft?'

Many a time we've boarded a flight with our three children to be met with tutting, groaning and eye-rolling from people who have be seated near us, who had have then turned around at the end of the flight and commented on how well behaved they have been. It would have been nice if they'd had a little faith in the first place though, without making us feel like we shouldn't be allowed to enjoy a holiday abroad.

photome

maemaesmummy wrote: »

My kiddies have been flying for 9 + hours since 8 months of age, THEY know how to behave and indeed do on flights.

We fly BA Club or VA Upper class on a lot of flights and they are often complemented on their behaviour by other passengers.

Not the same can be said of some of the other oiks on board (usually in economy) who drink loads of booze "cos it's free" lol

Interesting, your kids are well behaved because you can afford to fly in UC !!!

I only fly in economy, my son has been flying short and long haul since he was 6 months old, he is now 17, he has NEVER been any trouble on a flight because he know the difference between right and wrong regardless of how much money we have

photome

ferf1223 wrote: »

Personally I would like to vet anyone on the plane who might impact my flight in any way...child or adult.

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makes sense to me