Why the everyday make-up?

Tiddlywinks

Person_one wrote: »

I'm not immune, I do wear makeup at occasions where I would feel self conscious without it such as weddings and parties and so on.

I also shave my legs and underarms if they're going to be on display even though I really don't think I should have to and I don't bother approximately nine months out of the year, but I'm not confident enough to brave the stares and the laughs and the disgusted sounds from strangers if I don't.

Again, that's society's view on how we should look and it is just easier sometimes to comply.

Looking back even to the '70s, hair grooming was not as rigorous as now. You only have to look at an old copy of the Joy of Sex to see how women used to *ahem* grow their own.

MrsE_2

zaxdog wrote: »

Why the everyday make-up?

Because with it I feel groomed & finished, ready to face the world presenting my best, most confident foot forward.
I actually feel a bit grubby & unkempt without it, like I haven't bothered or made an effort. With it I feel cleaner & smarter.

I look more groomed & professional.

I do not judge other people like that, but I would think it odd for a woman not to wear make-up to a special occasion like a wedding, but I certainly don't expect other women to wear make-up to work every day.

Make-up for woman is probably a bit like shaving facial hair for men.

I also like to be hair de-fuzzed & nails & toes manicured at all times:D

Person_one

balletshoes wrote: »

this is starting to become a little like a 2-way conversation, but it really interests me . Where are you when you get stares, laughs and disgusted sounds from strangers for not de-fuzzing?

Well, anywhere really!

Have you never been around people (male or female) and heard them making !!!!!y or mean remarks about strangers for the way they look? Keep your ears open, keep an eye on your facebook wall!

Before I had my surgery I was a veritable dartboard for nasty comments and laughter, I had a big nose you see, which made me a subspecies undeserving of respect or love and an object of ridicule.

balletshoes

Person_one wrote: »

Well, anywhere really!

Have you never been around people (male or female) and heard them making !!!!!y or mean remarks about strangers for the way they look? Keep your ears open, keep an eye on your facebook wall!

Before I had my surgery I was a veritable dartboard for nasty comments and laughter, I had a big nose you see, which made me a subspecies undeserving of respect or love and an object of ridicule.

yes i have been around people like that (not about women having hairy legs or armpits though, nor, come to think of it, people with big noses) and I think they're all, without exception, card-carrying full-blown eejits. They get a disgusted look from me if I hear strangers talking like that, and I go into full lecture mode if I see or hear any of my DD's friends, or my niece's, even starting to talk like that. Its not acceptable, as far as I'm concerned.

Person_one

balletshoes wrote: »

yes i have been around people like that (not about women having hairy legs or armpits though, nor, come to think of it, people with big noses) and I think they're all, without exception, card-carrying full-blown eejits. They get a disgusted look from me if I hear strangers talking like that, and I go into full lecture mode if I see or hear any of my DD's friends, or my niece's, even starting to talk like that. Its not acceptable, as far as I'm concerned.

Nearly everybody does it, its background noise, you won't even notice it at a lot of the time.

Tina20

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

Oh do stop with the 'holier than thou' sermons... Advertising is a multi-billion £ /$ market - it wouldn't have grown to be so profitable and influencial if humans weren't susceptible to suggestion.

Big deal! Again, you miss my point - I make choices in life and am comfortable with them; even if those CHOICES are based on adverts, trends or whatever, they are still choices.

No one holds a gun to my head and no one will suffer if I change my mind.

I like to 'enhance' my looks with makeup just as I choose to enhance my home with a fresh lick of paint every now and again. I could have left it as magnolia forever but I like the look of a slightly warmer colour. Where's the difference?

On the days when I choose trousers instead of a skirt I am not doing so to cover up my fear of others seeing my legs... so why should you assume that about my face and makeup? I have no deep-seated 'issues', sorry to disappoint you.

Yet again, you are suggesting that people who wear makeup are not in control of their actions and have been manipulated by a higher power...

You have no idea what makes me tick - do not presume to judge me by the fact that I choose to wear makeup - you have admitted that you have issues, don't assume that applies to everyone else.

How is my attitude holier than thou? I was asked my views so I have given them.
I have not missed your point, I simply disagree with your point.

Like it or not, it's external influences that make you feel that you want make up. External influences also govern the way we dress, the way we do our hair, what we drive, what we eat.

It's not holier than thou to point out that everyone is pressured into buying things they can easily do without.

Back on topic,
I love the fact I don't wear make up. In fact, I lost my hair brush almost a month ago and have just been combing it with my fingers, shock horror. I get out of bed, put clothes on and get to live my life. I'm not slave to my looks, and I have yet to meet someone who is shocked and horrified that I have no make up on.
Maybe my opinion is biased, having seen my sister a slave to make up. It trapped her so intensely, she couldn't leave the house. She said if people saw her without it she would look like a failure.

I hate makeup and what it does to some women. If anything else made people wary of leaving the house than it would be banned or restricted. But it's totally legal to enslave women with the idea of a perfect face, the eyelashes just long enough, blemishes hidden enough, eyes and lips lined etc.
I find the whole industry disturbing.

newcook

balletshoes wrote: »

this is starting to become a little like a 2-way conversation, but it really interests me . Where are you when you get stares, laughs and disgusted sounds from strangers for not de-fuzzing?

To be completely honest, if I got on a bus or train and the woman opposite me (or next to me) had obviously hairy legs and then when she reached up to press the bell I saw that she had hairy pits, I think I would gasp/pull a face/vom slightly in mouth because I personally find it looks hideous on women! Its nearly as offensive as those who don’t use deodorant (and sometimes, if you are really lucky, you get to see both on public transport!)

Yes, nature intended us to have hair in those places but it doesn’t always mean its right in my opinion!

I rarely wear skirts but I always shave my legs, armpits and bikini line as I like the silky smooth feeling.

piglet74

thebaileys wrote: »

I wear it because quite frankly I am scary without it!:rotfl:

ditto!!!:o

i look and feel better with it on,

tea_lover

Tina20 wrote: »

How is my attitude holier than thou? I was asked my views so I have given them.
I have not missed your point, I simply disagree with your point.

Like it or not, it's external influences that make you feel that you want make up. External influences also govern the way we dress, the way we do our hair, what we drive, what we eat.

It's not holier than thou to point out that everyone is pressured into buying things they can easily do without.

Back on topic,
I love the fact I don't wear make up. In fact, I lost my hair brush almost a month ago and have just been combing it with my fingers, shock horror. I get out of bed, put clothes on and get to live my life. I'm not slave to my looks, and I have yet to meet someone who is shocked and horrified that I have no make up on.
Maybe my opinion is biased, having seen my sister a slave to make up. It trapped her so intensely, she couldn't leave the house. She said if people saw her without it she would look like a failure.

I hate makeup and what it does to some women. If anything else made people wary of leaving the house than it would be banned or restricted. But it's totally legal to enslave women with the idea of a perfect face, the eyelashes just long enough, blemishes hidden enough, eyes and lips lined etc.
I find the whole industry disturbing.

But can you not see your own double standards here? You hate make up - absolutely fine, no problem with that, it's not to everyone's taste. But your insistence that people who do enjoy it are trapped, and have no choice in what they do is just patronising. It's just a different opinion to yours, give it some respect.

balletshoes

newcook wrote: »

To be completely honest, if I got on a bus or train and the woman opposite me (or next to me) had obviously hairy legs and then when she reached up to press the bell I saw that she had hairy pits, I think I would gasp/pull a face/vom slightly in mouth because I personally find it looks hideous on women!

Its nearly as offensive as those who don’t use deodorant (and sometimes, if you are really lucky, you get to see both on public transport!)

Yes, nature intended us to have hair in those places but it doesn’t always mean its right in my opinion!

I rarely wear skirts but I always shave my legs, armpits and bikini line as I like the silky smooth feeling.

are you being serious, or are you exaggerating a bit? You really would gasp/vom a little if you saw a female nearby with armpit hair? I'm struggling to think of anything hideous enough visible on any person which would make my reaction so strong as to gasp or vom a little.

(my eyebrows might give me away by raising a fair bit if I came across someone who'd split their tongue to look like a lizard though).