Why the everyday make-up?

zaxdog

newcook wrote: »

If I could afford to drive then I would (and before anyone states the obvious about if you stopped smoking then you could – I really couldn’t, I smoke less than 10 a day which would be no-where near the cost of running and maintaining a car).

Funnily enough, I don’t mind it on men – and I prefer a hairy chest over a bald one anyday!!

So in other words this is YOUR problem not someone who hasn't conformed to the idea of removing certain body hair?

newcook

zaxdog wrote: »

So in other words this is YOUR problem not someone who hasn't conformed to the idea of removing certain body hair?

As I said in one of my previous posts, it is my opinion.

Same way that it is your opinion (problem?) about women who wear make up every day. You don’t like the full face of make up on women everyday, I don’t like seeing womens hairy armpits.

Thumper7

As I don't have to look at me, i don't particularly care how I look. As long as my face is clean.

saying that if I did have to look at myself everyday, then the slap would definitely be going on. lol

Tina20

Will just answer everyone at once:

I said makeup enslaves SOME women. Was about to put a disclaimer on the original post but thought people would read it properly.
I hate the way it enslaves some women, and the effect it has on their self esteem.

As for men wearing makeup, there is nothing wrong with their natural face, as is the same with all women. Your face is perfect as it is, no-one can tell you it's too red/pale/spotty/scarred/hairy etc, who are they to set the benchmark? If there was no provision there to change your face, everyone would be fine to go natural.

Of course there are far worse things in the world. Should I have Said 'the industry disturbs me. Also war, famine, crime, poverty disturb me too'
They are all off topic.

The whole industry obsessed with changing the way you look disturbs me. All the people living in mansions and estates because they have convinced their customers that they need day cream, night cream, wrinkle cream, cellulite cream, eye cream, foundation, concealer, eye liner, lip liner, blusher, mascara, fake eyelashes, coloured contacts, Botox, fillers, face lifts, breast reduction, breast enlargement, liposuction, butt implants, cheek implants, blah blah blah.
So many ways to change the way you look. If the companies hadn't created the insecurities in the first place, there wouldn't be any issues.

It's like the cowboy builders who come to tell you there are slates missing off your roof and you desperately need it fixed, you pay them ridiculous amounts of money and they fiddle around up there for a while, maybe paint a couple things and make it look pretty. You feel safe and happy, they have all your money for a job that didn't need done in the first place!

People who buy products in an attempt to change the way they look naturally are just like the householder above, they've been led to think there is a problem so they are happy to pay money to try and fix a problem they think they have (looking tired, overweight, wrinkles etc) yes it's their CHOICE but they have been led to think there is a problem that never existed in the first place.


Disclaimer: the above are my opinions and thoughts on the subject. None of which are applicable to any user personally. Yes I also think there are other terrible things in the world. No animals were harmed in the making of this post. This does no effect your statutory rights.

zoesmummy_2006

I wear makeup because I like it, I like how I look in it, end of. I wear it everyday.

When I first started wearing makeup I was 16, I hadnt been one of the pretty & popular girls at school who all used to sit brushing blusher on their cheeks, and pouting away as they applied their lip glosses-the ones who ALWAYS got the boys attention.

Im now a mum of 2 and I wear makeup fo the schoolruns etc, but once my makeups on I very rarely have to touch it up as i've finally found a decent long lasting foundation that i'm happy with. My best mate very rarely wears makeup, if she does I generally put it on for her cos itll be a night out we're having, but she's happy not to wear it, like i'm happy to spend 10 mins applying mine. I have loads of makeup but generally just wear the same stuff daily and just zoosh it up with bit extra if im going out.

Who cares if someone wears makeup everyday or not??

System

Have to admit i do like a bit of eyeliner on a man

thegirlintheattic

I don't wear make-up daily. One of the saddest things I've seen is a grown woman who wouldn't get out of bed without putting tons of it on and wouldn't let her OH see her without it.

Tiddlywinks

Tina20 wrote: »

Marketing is the only reason women feel better with makeup on. The makeup manufacturers are rubbing their hands in glee, raking in the cash from vulnerable women they have convinced look ugly without it.

That was a pretty absolute statement right there - the ONLY reason women feel better with makeup is because of marketing? Really? Have you asked every woman? Because that statement doesn't ring a bell with me.

Tina20 wrote: »

It's like the cowboy builders who come to tell you there are slates missing off your roof and you desperately need it fixed, you pay them ridiculous amounts of money and they fiddle around up there for a while, maybe paint a couple things and make it look pretty. You feel safe and happy, they have all your money for a job that didn't need done in the first place!

People who buy products in an attempt to change the way they look naturally are just like the householder above, they've been led to think there is a problem so they are happy to pay money to try and fix a problem they think they have (looking tired, overweight, wrinkles etc) yes it's their CHOICE but they have been led to think there is a problem that never existed in the first place.

Eh? I buy makeup so that makes me the same as someone who gets duped by a hokey tradesman?

Once again.... I paint my interior walls - they don't *need* to be painted but I fancy a change. I have various handbags / shoes - one would do but I swap around as I like to change my appearance. I use makeup - oh wait - now I'm suddenly being branded as lacking in understanding of how I *really* look and feel?

If you want to believe that all women (or even most women)wear makeup only because of external pressures then you are deluding yourself. You have 'baggage' about how you see yourself, don't assume this is the case for all of us.

You seem bitter about women who use makeup - suggesting they are, at best, naive to not realise they are being manipulated.

To be clear - I don't care if others wear or don't wear makeup - it's just that I don't presume that those that differ from me must be lacking in understanding of their situation - you do. Why?

Tish_P

Too many people (on both sides of this argument) seem to think that conforming to societal expectations is the same thing as being a weak-willed dupe. Unless you're reading this up a tree while picking raw meat from between your teeth with your toenails, you're conforming to societal expectations as we speak. Societal expectations is why we wear business suits or jeans rather than crinolines or grass skirts as other societies do/did.

In most cultures people adorn themselves. One of the ways we do it is with make-up, but we as a society have weird sexist attitudes about wonem who do and women who don't wear make up, and men who wear make-up probably get the worst stereotyping of the lot. It's possible to have a discussion about those societal expectations and stereotypes, and which ones are sexist and which ones are unfair, without bashing people for making their choices (which are not free choices for any of us. In the culture of my workplace, dramatic full make-up every day would probably be seriously looked down on.)

Just so as not to be too blandly "hey, guys, peace out", though, to newcook: if you find hairy armpits on women totally disgusting but don't mind them on men, you pretty much by definition have a sexist attitude. There's nothing inherently more unhygienic about women's hair than men's, so don't try to dress up your prejudice as a health/grooming concern.

Torry_Quine

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Ok I'm intrigued as I've never been to a wedding wearing make-up. Why would you find it odd?

I've been to two weddings recently without wearing make-up and no-one batted an eye-lid. As I never wear any I'd probably get more looks if I suddenly wore some!

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

I don't wear make-up daily. One of the saddest things I've seen is a grown woman who wouldn't get out of bed without putting tons of it on and wouldn't let her OH see her without it.

I have to agree here. If your husband or partner can't accept bare-faced then it's very sad.