Why the everyday make-up?

Person_one

newcook wrote: »

To be completely honest, if I got on a bus or train and the woman opposite me (or next to me) had obviously hairy legs and then when she reached up to press the bell I saw that she had hairy pits, I think I would gasp/pull a face/vom slightly in mouth because I personally find it looks hideous on women! Its nearly as offensive as those who don’t use deodorant (and sometimes, if you are really lucky, you get to see both on public transport!)

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Tiddlywinks

Tina20 wrote: »

I hate makeup and what it does to some women. If anything else made people wary of leaving the house than it would be banned or restricted. But it's totally legal to enslave women with the idea of a perfect face, the eyelashes just long enough, blemishes hidden enough, eyes and lips lined etc.
I find the whole industry disturbing.

You have some SERIOUS issues there - makeup doesn't 'enslave' it provides choice. The CHOICE to go without, have an understated 'natural' look, be slightly enhanced or downright outrageous - that's empowering not enslavement.

A disturbing industry? Worse than tobacco manufacturers, fur traders, arms dealers, drug pushers? Really?

There are worse things to worry about than whether another human being happens to choose to wear makeup.

Wickedkitten

newcook wrote: »

To be completely honest, if I got on a bus or train and the woman opposite me (or next to me) had obviously hairy legs and then when she reached up to press the bell I saw that she had hairy pits, I think I would gasp/pull a face/vom slightly in mouth because I personally find it looks hideous on women! Its nearly as offensive as those who don’t use deodorant (and sometimes, if you are really lucky, you get to see both on public transport!)

Yes, nature intended us to have hair in those places but it doesn’t always mean its right in my opinion!

I rarely wear skirts but I always shave my legs, armpits and bikini line as I like the silky smooth feeling.

This doesn't go a far way from disproving the notion that the only people that tend to judge women harshly are other women!

rachbc

Tina20 wrote: »

I love the fact I don't wear make up. In fact, I lost my hair brush almost a month ago and have just been combing it with my fingers, shock horror. I get out of bed, put clothes on and get to live my life. I'm not slave to my looks, and I have yet to meet someone who is shocked and horrified that I have no make up on.

I hate makeup and what it does to some women. If anything else made people wary of leaving the house than it would be banned or restricted. But it's totally legal to enslave women with the idea of a perfect face, the eyelashes just long enough, blemishes hidden enough, eyes and lips lined etc.
I find the whole industry disturbing.

Good for you - I get out of bed, put clothes on, spend 5 mins doing my makeup and get to live MY life. I'm not a slave to anything. I like wearing make up but I had horrific facial eczema for about a year and couldn't wear any make up - I still did everything I did before, my confidence wasn't shattered, I never heard a nasty comment (a couple of insenstive questions but I can excuse idiocy).

There is plenty of middle ground between not wearing any as a statement and refusing to let your husband see you without

Tiddlywinks

newcook wrote: »

To be completely honest, if I got on a bus or train and the woman opposite me (or next to me) had obviously hairy legs and then when she reached up to press the bell I saw that she had hairy pits, I think I would gasp/pull a face/vom slightly in mouth because I personally find it looks hideous on women! Its nearly as offensive as those who don’t use deodorant (and sometimes, if you are really lucky, you get to see both on public transport!)

Yes, nature intended us to have hair in those places but it doesn’t always mean its right in my opinion!

I rarely wear skirts but I always shave my legs, armpits and bikini line as I like the silky smooth feeling.

Whatever happened to basic manners? Just because someone is different does not give you the right to make a public display of your disgust.

Vomiting just for seeing some body hair - let's get some perspective here.

I do agree that strong body odour in close quarters can be unbearable though.

newcook

balletshoes wrote: »

are you being serious, or are you exaggerating a bit? You really would gasp/vom a little if you saw a female nearby with armpit hair? I'm struggling to think of anything hideous enough visible on any person which would make my reaction so strong as to gasp or vom a little.

(my eyebrows might give me away by raising a fair bit if I came across someone who'd split their tongue to look like a lizard though).

I honestly would - especially with the hairy armpits. if people have big ears/nose etc I dont bat an eyelid and 9 times out of 10 I wouldnt even notice unless they pointed it out but when Im sat on a bus and a woman wearing a sleeveless top puts up their arm to press the bell Im sat near, it is quite literally right by my face and I personally find it extremely unpleasant!!

newcook

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

Whatever happened to basic manners? Just because someone is different does not give you the right to make a public display of your disgust.

Vomiting just for seeing some body hair - let's get some perspective here.

what ever happened to basic grooming?!

if someones personal choice of grooming is quite literally in my face I think I have a right to make a public display of my disgust.

people seem to think they have the right to tut, waft their hand and make dramatic coughing/gestures when I have a cigarette when it is no where near them (or if they have chosen to sit in a smoking area) so why should I not air my own views?

tea_lover

Tina20 wrote: »

I hate makeup and what it does to some women. If anything else made people wary of leaving the house than it would be banned or restricted. But it's totally legal to enslave women with the idea of a perfect face, the eyelashes just long enough, blemishes hidden enough, eyes and lips lined etc.
I find the whole industry disturbing.

I would be really interested to hear your opinions on men wearing make up Tina. Are men who do wear make up also being enslaved by the industry? Or are the ones who don't being enslaved by what the media says men should look like (ie. no make up).

Genuine question. I'm fascinated by the depth of your feelings against make up.

tea_lover

newcook wrote: »

people seem to think they have the right to tut, waft their hand and make dramatic coughing/gestures when I have a cigarette when it is no where near them (or if they have chosen to sit in a smoking area) so why should I not air my own views?

Because second hand smoke has serious health repercussions whereas body hair is just personal preference?

balletshoes

newcook wrote: »

what ever happened to basic grooming?!

if someones personal choice of grooming is quite literally in my face I think I have a right to make a public display of my disgust.

people seem to think they have the right to tut, waft their hand and make dramatic coughing/gestures when I have a cigarette when it is no where near them (or if they have chosen to sit in a smoking area) so why should I not air my own views?

they're eejits as well as far as I'm concerned.