Why the everyday make-up?

Person_one

freyasmum wrote: »

My job requires me to look perfectly groomed at all times - there is no room for straggly eyebrows, dry, ruddy cheeks and chipped nails here.

I have to ask, what job do you do that you can't do it well with a few stray eyebrow hairs, a patch of dry skin or just your natural lip colour?

I can only think of makeup saleswoman...

balletshoes

freyasmum wrote: »

As well as being a requirement for my job - along with immaculate, freshly pressed clothes, etc - I feel better about myself when I wear these things.
It's like going to the hairdressers - it doesn't matter how you go in, once you've have a bit of pampering, you're floating out the door and feel aaah-may-ZING :j

This has never happened to me - I might get the cut/style I like from my hairdresser, but I've never had that aaah-may-ZING feeling, I think its because I don't like sitting about so long while the hairdresser faffs about putting the final touches to it . I can lie on a massage table no bother, that I find brilliantly relaxing. But getting my hair done? Nope, doesn't float my boat pampering-wise.

freyasmum

Person_one wrote: »

I have to ask, what job do you do that you can't do it well with a few stray eyebrow hairs, a patch of dry skin or just your natural lip colour?

I can only think of makeup saleswoman...

I'm a beauty therapist/nail tech, so slightly more in depth than make-up saleswoman...

I'm self employed and I'm the best in my area at what I do - I mentioned in DT the other day that my prices can be up to 4-8 times more than some of the little girls starting out playing at being a 'mobile tech' around here. Of course I can do that without makeup, it has absolutely no bearing on my ability to do my job... but why on earth would clients entrust me with their grooming if they could see that I didn't do anything with myself? It's like being a walking advert for myself!

And I'm not talking about looking like an oompa loompa with a big, thick scouse brow!



Balletshoes, my mum's like that - she HATES being 'touched' so a trip to the hairdressers is a real ordeal for her. Perhaps I enjoy the whole experience because it's my 'time out' , but it's the way my hair looks when it's freshly cut and all bouncy from a professional blowdry. It makes me look much better than when I went in, and that makes me feel a million dollars. Well worth the £20 every few months!

Person_one

freyasmum wrote: »

I'm a beauty therapist/nail tech, so slightly more in depth than make-up saleswoman...

I'm self employed and I'm the best in my area at what I do - I mentioned in DT the other day that my prices can be up to 4-8 times more than some of the little girls starting out playing at being a 'mobile tech' around here. Of course I can do that without makeup, it has absolutely no bearing on my ability to do my job... but why on earth would clients entrust me with their grooming if they could see that I didn't do anything with myself? It's like being a walking advert for myself!

'Little girls playing'? That's not a very nice way to refer to your fellow professionals, unless you're actually referring to preteen girls competing with you...

I get my hair cut by a very well qualified bald man.

Gigervamp

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

You didn't intend to be mean, didn't mention lazy... you need to start looking at how your comments might be received.

You said that you didn't wear nail varnish because you were too busy chopping wood,, playing with kids and animals etc which, when flipped, could be seen to *imply* that those that do wear nail varnish are forfeiting those activities in order to paint their nails.

You need to look at your messages and how they might be received... I also feel you have come across as smug and judgemental and cannot understand why you came on here asking a question when you really don't seem to want to hear the answer.

The way I read that (and thought it was obvious) was, if the OP wore nail varnish, it would get chipped pretty darn quickly and would need to be redone everyday, therefore it's not practical. I certainly didn't see it as a dig at women who do wear it and I'd suggest that taking offense at that says more about the reader.

belfastgirl23

Truthfully I didn't mean to patronise with commenting that you understand these things when you get older. Partly my response is based on the fact that the OP sounds a lot like me twenty years ago so maybe it did come off like that but it was unintentional I had lovely skin and in my mind getting older involved a few wrinkles, maybe a couple of extra freckles. It didn't involve having a big red nose and scars which I do have now. I suppose we can only base things on our own experiences and my ageing hasn't worked out quite like I thought it would. Both my grandmother and my mother never wore foundation and had lovely skin - but I think living in the country helps a lot with that too.

Anyhow OP sorry if it did seem a bit patronising, to be fair it wasn't really even about age when I thought about this some more, it was more about not knowing where other people are coming from, how their skin might look behind the makeup and what kinds of insecurities they might be carrying. I'm a lot more understanding about it now than I used to be at any rate!

zaxdog

Thanks Gigervamp that is exactly what I meant. It would be a never ending job to keep my nails polished and my lifestyle doesn't really suit that look.

I'm not trying to upset anyone I was just curious about other people's opinions/attitudes as it seems so unusual here.

freyasmum

Person_one wrote: »

'Little girls playing'? That's not a very nice way to refer to your fellow professionals, unless you're actually referring to preteen girls competing with you...

I get my hair cut by a very well qualified bald man.

I'm referring to the influx of 19/20 year olds who have done a one day course and think that's enough to set themselves up as businesswomen. I overheard a conversation the other day between a 'nail technician' and a potential client...

Hi there, £10? That's a bargain price!! What do we do after the two weeks? Do you infill?
Oh no, lol! I don't infills.
Oh, ok. What happens - do you soak off and then we get a new set each time?
Nah, they usually just kinda fall off and I'll stick new ones on.

I don't care who you are, or what you say - that's not a fellow professional The sad thing is, if she valued her work, charged accordingly and was willing to learn how to actually do them properly, then she'd be able to build a clientele who actually appreciated her. And then she'd be a fellow professional...

My last hairdresser had hair but he was the best. Absolutely covered in tatts, and always in jeans or t-shirts. I was gutted when he left I prefer men hairdressers as they have less of an 'attatchment' to the hair and will. I tend to find women caution against cutting off, say, waist lenght hair to bob-length whereas he just cut the lot off and loved doing it. Hairdressers are different from beauty therapists though, they can be 'edgy', with bright pink and purple cheetah print dyed onto the shaved sides of their hair.

Person_one

freyasmum wrote: »

I'm referring to the influx of 19/20 year olds who have done a one day course and think that's enough to set themselves up as businesswomen. I overheard a conversation the other day between a 'nail technician' and a potential client...

Hi there, £10? That's a bargain price!! What do we do after the two weeks? Do you infill?
Oh no, lol! I don't infills.
Oh, ok. What happens - do you soak off and then we get a new set each time?
Nah, they usually just kinda fall off and I'll stick new ones on.

I don't care who you are, or what you say - that's not a fellow professional The sad thing is, if she valued her work, charged accordingly and was willing to learn how to actually do them properly, then she'd be able to build a clientele who actually appreciated her. And then she'd be a fellow professional...

I'm willing to bet you weren't absolutely perfect when you started out either, and even if you don't think they're much competition there's still no need to be nasty about them, they aren't in fact 'little girls' and at least they've got the courage to attempt starting a business so young.

raven83

Because not everyone is lucky enough to have the confidence to go out without makeup and it makes us feel better, simple really.