Kids and Small Hotels and Breakfast Time Nightmares

jellyhead

Welshwoofs wrote: »

ETA: Shellsuit's plan sounds the most common sense - she experiences the different dynamics of full family holidays, holidays alone with her kids and holidays just with her husband. IMO that sounds the most healthy!

No mention of her being alone while her husband takes the children on holiday though ... I loved it when my husband did that a couple of months ago

Welshwoofs

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Why do you feel the need to attack something you don't understand?

Where have I attacked anything? It was actually you who, in reply to my question about why kids needed to be taken, said:

"Couple time" can be achieved without leaving your kids at home when you go on holiday"

That rather indicates that you feel that people shouldn't go on holiday without their children.

I don't give a tuppenny !!!!!! whether you want to be around your kids 24/7 or not - I'm merely putting the point of view that there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a holiday without one's kids.

raven83

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Alot of assumptions there. I enjoy going on holiday with my kids I like my kids and enjoy spending time with them.

I haven't said there is something wrong if you dare to go without your kids on holiday, but our holidays are precious, we don't get many and can't afford a lot, so I want to go with my kids.

I don't need to take them with me on every holiday with us, I want to take them on every holiday with us.

Why do you feel the need to attack something you don't understand?

WW is always on the attack, and from what I can gather from other post she has made, doesn't care much for children.

Lotus-eater

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Where have I attacked anything? It was actually you who, in reply to my question about why kids needed to be taken, said:

"Couple time" can be achieved without leaving your kids at home when you go on holiday"

That rather indicates that you feel that people shouldn't go on holiday without their children.

I don't give a tuppenny !!!!!! whether you want to be around your kids 24/7 or not - I'm merely putting the point of view that there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a holiday without one's kids.

Couple time can be achieved without leaving your kids at home while you go on holiday, fact.

This indicates nothing of the sort that I feel people shouldn't go on holiday without their kids, it's a personal choice.
I couldn't give a damn what other people do, that's their choice.
My view is what I want to do.

Sounded like you were attacking it to me, I forgot for a moment what a lovely person you are, thanks for reminding me.

jayII

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Where have I attacked anything? It was actually you who, in reply to my question about why kids needed to be taken, said:

"Couple time" can be achieved without leaving your kids at home when you go on holiday"

That rather indicates that you feel that people shouldn't go on holiday without their children.

I don't give a tuppenny !!!!!! whether you want to be around your kids 24/7 or not - I'm merely putting the point of view that there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a holiday without one's kids.

You have such a way with words. :rotfl:

Much as I love my little angels, I would have adored having holidays without my children when they were young!

It wasn't possible for us but those who can and want to should go for it, every time. It's great being a parent but we are so much more than that.

Welshwoofs

raven83 wrote: »

WW is always on the attack,

That's a total lie though isn't it.

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Couple time can be achieved without leaving your kids at home while you go on holiday, fact.

It can also be achieved by having holidays without them.

Sounded like you were attacking it to me, I forgot for a moment what a lovely person you are, thanks for reminding me.

I guess that if you're are perhaps massively sensitive and wanted to go way out of your way to find offence it could be construed as being an attack. However, let's remind ourselves of what I actually said:

"Do you need to take kids on holiday though? I'd have thought it would be a golden opportunity to get back a bit of 'couple time' and get them to stay with doting grandparents, aunts etc"

The comment wasn't in reply to anything you posted....so how could it possibly be an attack on you or your holiday proclivities?

And thank you for the compliment about me being a lovely person.....it means a lot to me.

raven83

Welshwoofs wrote: »

That's a total lie though isn't it.




It can also be achieved by having holidays without them.




I guess that if you're are perhaps massively sensitive and wanted to go way out of your way to find offence it could be construed as being an attack. However, let's remind ourselves of what I actually said:

"Do you need to take kids on holiday though? I'd have thought it would be a golden opportunity to get back a bit of 'couple time' and get them to stay with doting grandparents, aunts etc"

The comment wasn't in reply to anything you posted....so how could it possibly be an attack on you or your holiday proclivities?

And thank you for the compliment about me being a lovely person.....it means a lot to me.

But that is the point, some people don't want to leave their kids at home!!! Just because you have no maternal urge and dislike "breeders" doesn't mean everyone else is like that. I adore my kids and as much as they get on my nerves at times I HATE being away from them for any length of time and I wouldn't enjoy a holiday without them. :mad:

nickyhutch

Welshwoofs wrote: »

That doesn't mean you need to take them on every holiday with you does it?

If a family can only manage one holiday a year, or even less, then yes, I think you do.


Why does everything involving kids have to be one extreme or another? How about some holidays with kids and some holidays with couples? Great, if you can afford that many holidays. Perhaps the staggeringly high divorce rate is partly because once the ruddy kids are born lots of couples don't make any time just for themselves. This bit, I agree with wholeheartedly.

ETA: Shellsuit's plan sounds the most common sense - she experiences the different dynamics of full family holidays, holidays alone with her kids and holidays just with her husband. IMO that sounds the most healthy! Again, great if you can afford it. To me, at least, this idea that there's 'something wrong' if you dare to go away without your kids is just bizarrre.

I don't think there's anything wrong with going away without your kids, as long as you're also having holidays with them. When my DS was little, we couldn't afford more than one per year, though, and it wouldn't have felt fair to bu99er off for a fortnight leaving him with grandma.

Welshwoofs

raven83 wrote: »

But that is the point, some people don't want to leave their kids at home!!! Just because you have no maternal urge and dislike "breeders" doesn't mean everyone else is like that. I adore my kids and as much as they get on my nerves at times I HATE being away from them for any length of time and I wouldn't enjoy a holiday without them. :mad:

Has anyone told YOU to go on holiday without them? No.

Why is so difficult to understand that I'm merely stating.....and this is what we call a general statement here.....that kids don't need to go on holiday with their parents (and remember...that's 'people', which is a collective noun and not a personal pronoun) and that holiday can be good couples time...sans children?

I think I preferred you when you erroneously thought I was on disability benefits and were bashing me for believing for that disability benefits should be higher than JSA. At least that was amusing

kerrypn

Well I have 3 children and I would definitely enjoy a short holiday without them.

I miss eating a meal with having baked beans flicked in my hair, sleeping in until noon, reading a whole page of a book without "I need a wee" , "Muuuuuuuummmmmmmmy" or a full scale tantrum and I miss having a hot cup of coffee instead of the luke warm sips I get in between refereeing/entertaining/parenting/cooking/cleaning.