Kids and Small Hotels and Breakfast Time Nightmares

SandC

I agree. Why bother having kids if you're not going to take them on holiday with you? 'Me' or 'us' time is important but if it's all about you or us then don't bring children into the equation. Simple.

Geez and they call us child free peeps selfish.

PasturesNew

SandC wrote: »

Geez and they call us child free peeps selfish.

Yes, but we don't have children.... so what do we know about it?

Dunroamin

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Well the kids are a part of the family and they need their horizons lengthening as much as anyone.
It does them good to see the world, otherwise how are they going to learn about it?

I suspect you would be the first to complain about kids who weren't worldly wise and the parents who bought them up without any understanding of the world at large.

"Couple time" can be achieved without leaving your kids at home when you go on holiday.

Or your children could really have their minds broadened and become more independent by going on an organised holiday like PGL while the parents have a holiday on their own.

lostinrates

Children are part of the family, but not part of the marriage/relationship. If we had kids (note childless knownothing) i would be taking kids on holidays but also seeking time for just the two of us...whether that were an afternoon while kids were on playdates, or a weekend in a hotel by the sea or a short city break.

Children certainly do need expanded horizons i agree with that.

jellyhead

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Do you need to take kids on holiday though? I'd have thought it would be a golden opportunity to get back a bit of 'couple time' and get them to stay with doting grandparents, aunts etc.

We don't have enough doting relatives, and everyone works or has health issues which mean they can't babysit for long. I'm working on getting the youngest to go for sleepovers though

It depends ... if I could only afford 1 break per year and my kids weren't having a break at all then I'd take them with me.

I know some people whose parents take the grandchildren on proper holidays, so those parents go on holiday at the same time but to a different destination

Some people go away while their kids are at scout camp or away with school. I'm planning to do that in about 18 months time when mine will go away with school, but for the moment he comes with me. Sometimes my youngest child is the only person I take with me

delain

I am meant to be going away without my rabble at the weekend :eek: scary thought, that.

mumps

I was reading this thread this morning and then went out to lunch with my OH. Imagine my horror when I saw four tables with children!!!! One couple had three little ones, all under five. Good as gold, not a peep out of them. One table had three young men with their babies in high chairs, moms must have been having a day off. They were doing a good job but one baby did cryfor about 30 seconds. A woman was having lunch with a girl of about ten, both very quiet. The final table was a couple with three children, 2 inthe 10 to 12 aqe group and a little chap of about 3 or 4. He did need to go to the loo at one point, held dads hand and walked quietly across the restaurant. It was lovely, made me smile.

Nicki

We went out for lunch yesterday and I have to admit my DS2 (aged 2) did misbehave very badly. He took it upon himself suddenly and with no warning to throw an onion ring across to another table and it got stuck in a complete stranger's hair We did obviously apologise profusely, tell him off and immediately get the bill and leave, and in our defence he has never done anything similar before and was behaving perfectly up to that point, but I suspect we would nonetheless be hung drawn and quartered as bad parents by most of the posters on this thread, as having spawned a feral child who doesn't know how to behave, and should therefore be left behind on all family days out and holidays for the rest of his life, or until he is 18!

Welshwoofs

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Well the kids are a part of the family and they need their horizons lengthening as much as anyone.
It does them good to see the world, otherwise how are they going to learn about it?

That doesn't mean you need to take them on every holiday with you does it?

Why does everything involving kids have to be one extreme or another? How about some holidays with kids and some holidays with couples? Perhaps the staggeringly high divorce rate is partly because once the ruddy kids are born lots of couples don't make any time just for themselves.

ETA: Shellsuit's plan sounds the most common sense - she experiences the different dynamics of full family holidays, holidays alone with her kids and holidays just with her husband. IMO that sounds the most healthy! To me, at least, this idea that there's 'something wrong' if you dare to go away without your kids is just bizarrre.

Lotus-eater

Welshwoofs wrote: »

That doesn't mean you need to take them on every holiday with you does it?

Why does everything involving kids have to be one extreme or another? How about some holidays with kids and some holidays with couples? Perhaps the staggeringly high divorce rate is partly because once the ruddy kids are born lots of couples don't make any time just for themselves.

ETA: Shellsuit's plan sounds the most common sense - she experiences the different dynamics of full family holidays, holidays alone with her kids and holidays just with her husband. IMO that sounds the most healthy! To me, at least, this idea that there's 'something wrong' if you dare to go away without your kids is just bizarrre.

Alot of assumptions there. I enjoy going on holiday with my kids I like my kids and enjoy spending time with them.

I haven't said there is something wrong if you dare to go without your kids on holiday, but our holidays are precious, we don't get many and can't afford a lot, so I want to go with my kids.

I don't need to take them with me on every holiday with us, I want to take them on every holiday with us.

Why do you feel the need to attack something you don't understand?