MSE Pregnancy Club 25

Rups32

ahh naughty man (the one who posted). i normally do that to mine, ie remind himhow i bring him home some cakes etc. he never thinks of me. tsk tsk. lol.

so sleepy now after tht bad meal... we have a meeting which i am def going to fall asleep in. lol

Bamama

LittleMoog wrote: »

If you are receiving Enhanced Maternity Pay, payment for public holidays is included in your EMP and therefore you may neither take a day in lieu before you begin your paid maternity leave nor accrue a day to take later for a public holiday which may be ‘missed’ during your paid maternity leave.

I'd get them to clarify that. It kinda sounds like they'll pay you them as "bonuses"... like people who can't carry over their holidays to the next year do with their left over days.

If it's not a payment on top then I'm sure that they aren't allowed to do that. As Fluffnutter was saying holidays are holidays. If you were expected to work a bank holiday then you'd have another day to take off at any point in the year. So it's daft of them to say you can have you holidays but not the bank holidays... they're the same thing. I'd pop and ask in the other forum for a bit of advice. Sounds well dodgy.

ANYWAY... enough rant about holidays. More rant about FULL PAY!? Lucky bloody people with their nice bloody jobs! I'm just getting SMP Though I can't blame my boss as I am the only employee and times are tough. But still... :mad:

And any food on offer... send it over here. I'm starving.

*Twinkle*

Bamama wrote: »

God I missed loads typing that!!!

Congrats Twinkle!!! Hope you'll post up a birth story for us all to read? Even when they scare me I love reading them.

Neph - If it says you don't get bank holidays, I'm pretty such they're breaching your legal rights.

I've been asking loads of questions else where about holidays because my boss wasn't sure... So I do apologise for ranting on about it. Just want you all to make sure you're getting what you deserve

it'll scare you!!!:eek: i'll try do one tonight after everyone is settled

Bamama

Yay! I'll get some popcorn in to sit and read it ^^

CL

Bamama wrote: »

Holidays don't count towards ML... all holidays are taken outside of your ML... no matter what enhancements they have in place.

I understood that if you got enhanced maternity pay, you don't get your bank hols added on as you can't be paid twice for one day that everyone else in your work is getting paid once for. For example, my friends are teachers and get enhanced maternity pay and return to work as normal, with no block of holidays to use, otherwise they wouldn't be available to teach their class.

CL

Nephthys wrote: »

CL - glad you are feeling a bit better. When do you stop work?

I'm hoping to work to the Friday before my c-section. I get SMP and as soon as I return to work I'll have 2 in a creche, so I want to keep as much of my maternity leave until after the baby is born as possible.

I've been told I'll be getting a section at 39 weeks. I'm 33 weeks now.

mrs_B_5

LittleMoog wrote: »

this is a direct quote from our maternity policy:
"Public holidays during Maternity Leave

If you are receiving Enhanced Maternity Pay, payment for public holidays is included in your EMP and therefore you may neither take a day in lieu before you begin your paid maternity leave nor accrue a day to take later for a public holiday which may be ‘missed’ during your paid maternity leave.

If you are receiving Statutory Maternity Pay only, you may, when calculating the holiday which will accrue during your maternity leave period, include public holidays which fall within this period."

As I'm getting 9 months off on full pay, I'm happy with this. I think if you have enhanced pay that is not equal to full pay, BH's are, and should be, accrued separately though.

littlemoog you're really lucky with that maternity leave policy, 9mths on full pay is pretty amazing!

I thought I had a pretty good ML policy I work for the NHS & have done for about 4yrs. I get 8wks full pay (including my SMP), 18wks half pay + SMP, 13wks SMP & then I can have 13wks unpaid leave to make it up to a year off. I'm also able to spread my pay evenly across the year so I actually get paid all the time I'm off which is helpful although will mean a bigger drop at the beginning but I think that'll be easier to deal with then 13wks unpaid at the end! I am still entitled to any annual increments I would be if I was at work too which is nice Only downside is that it states in the policy I am not able to calculate bank holidays into my accrued holiday entitlement whilst on maternity leave

I could definitely do a McDonalds right now, a quarter pounder with cheese meal with a chocolate milkshake & coke too But I won't because I'm at work. I am NOT going via the drive thru on the way home either :rotfl: I could eat one of their old style chocolate donuts too but they don't make them anymore so that's not an option!

Congrats to those who've had their little ones since I last posted missbunbury that's quite scary about your friend, I'm so worried about early labour, despite labour itself not worrying me at all! I really hope she & her little boy are ok, she's only 3wks in front of me Really puts things into perspective like people have said. I'm so grateful I've had what now feels like a pretty easy time.

Right back to working. Only 3hrs left! Oh...and how did I end up in the 40s already?!?

Amy & Bean - 26wks today (98 days to go until due date!)

Aida_2

Bamama wrote: »

Aida - Hard to explain as it's dependant on when your work year starts/ends but if you're saying you have 29 + standard bank holidays then you have 29+8 = 37 (this year 38 for the Jubilee). Any holidays that are bank holidays/saved for Christmas... will be yours to take before ML, or some carried over depending on if your employer allows that.
So say you've taken all your holidays except for Christmas and your year ends 31st December then, you'll have 2 bank holiday days and the 3 days in the gap, so 5 extra days left.
Did that make sense?

Rups - is that a 5 day week? Mmm I'd prefer a KFC!

Yep it make sense Bamama, thank you. I'll need to speak to my HR manager next week as she's away.

Twinkle Congratulation!!! Looking forward for December now....

Bamama

CL wrote: »

I understood that if you got enhanced maternity pay, you don't get your bank hols added on as you can't be paid twice for one day that everyone else in your work is getting paid once for. For example, my friends are teachers and get enhanced maternity pay and return to work as normal, with no block of holidays to use, otherwise they wouldn't be available to teach their class.

But if you were able to work the day then you'd get given a holiday to take at another time. Which is basically what being on ML is. It's not a holiday, it's paid leave... like being on the sick.

Aida_2

fluffnutter wrote: »

Are these extra 2 days taken out of your annual leave entitlement of 37 days (29 plus 8 BHs) or are they goodwill 'freebies' given to you by the company each Christmas?

If they're the former, then they're your contractual requirement. If the latter, then they're not.

Basically, it's not really that important when the days off are usually taken, you've got to look at your overall time off in conjunction with your leave entitlement and pro-rate your holiday. This can be a little complicated by the fact that leave is not taken regularly throughout the year but instead taken at any point (business needs withstanding). Say the leave year runs from Jan 1st to 31st December and your maternity leave starts on April 1st and runs for 8 months. You can't, for example take 29 days off between Jan 1st and 31st March and then say 'can I have 8/12 of my leave entitlement added to my maternity leave' because you've already used all your leave for that calendar year. Your leave entitlement will continue to accrue whilst you're on maternity leave reduced by any days you've already taken off. If your leave year expires whilst on maternity leave, you *should* be able to carry over your unused leave to the next leave year, even if your contract explicitly precludes carry-over.

Bank holidays don't have to be taken on the 'actual' days. Your contract is for 29 days plus bank holidays giving 37 days in total. This is your contractual leave entitlement you should use for your calculations regardless of whether you've actually been away on a bank holiday or not. However, if you add all of your leave entitlement for that year to your maternity leave and come back, say, on December 1st you can't then say 'well, 25th and 26th of December are bank holidays so I'm not working those days'. You'd have to borrow leave from the following year because you've already used your complete entitlement.

Thank you, thank you and thank you. I will go back to work at the end of May . From Jan to May there are 3 or 4 bank holidays plus 2.5 days of annual leave for every "worked" month, so give or take 12 days of holiday. Adding these up it would give me 15-16 days to add at the end of my ML.

It's a little bit scary not having the same income...