MSE Pregnancy Club 25

savageHK

cot death study here if anyone has the inclination: http://www.bmj.com/content/339/bmj.b3666

LittleMoog

martafdz wrote: »

sleeping bags, I had the same question, and another one: how do you change the nappy during the night with a sleeping bag? Do you have to take it off completely? I do like the idea of bags, I saw some offers online this week for newborn sleeping bags, but they are still much more expensive than celular blankets

Swaddling, I also heard in a midwife's episode not to do it, and read in a leaflet given at mw that it is ok during the day if supervised but not at night or when sleeping because if baby goes too hot s/he cannot move to allow some cool air going in or kick cover.

The sleeping bags have a zip around the bottom, so you can undo that to do nappies but leave the top on.

dizsiebubba wrote: »

I have been told that they are starting to discourage swaddling now because of the risk of cot death!

We have thin cotton swaddling blankets to use at first if the baby likes it, which I don't think will be too hot. You shouldn't use a regular blanket though, if you don't have a special swaddling blanket you can use a muslin or a flat sheet instead. We got them at a nearly new sale so if baby doesn't like it we've only lost about a fiver! Worth looking out for them second hand as you're only supposed to use them for a month or so, and they don't get much wear in that time!

We'll definitely use Grobags once the baby is big enough and doesn't need swaddling, everyone I know with kids says they're well worth the money as it's so much easier than trying to keep blankets on babies! The 0-6month sizes are normally ok for babies from about 8lb I think.

ikkle87

dizsiebubba wrote: »

Be careful what you wish for... The reason some of us are having more scans is due to complications (or possible ones) and to be honest, I wish I wasn't having more scans... I'm so sick before each one because of feeling stressed about having it and what I could possibly be told is wrong

This.

I so wish I'd had a straightforward pregnancy. Bit of ms in the first tri then smooth sailing the rest of the way through. I'd have enjoyed it a lot more.

I feel better once I've seen that bubs is ok on the scan but the lead up to it and my other appointments is so stressful and I always have that niggling fear what if today is the day they really can't find his heartbeat and he's not just hiding/playing up etc.

dizsiebubba

Ok so I have no real opinion on it as i'm no expert... i'm just playing devils advocate here but...

savageHK wrote: »

In typical fashion:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-149780/Swaddling-babies-lowers-cot-death-risk.html This is actually about US advice where they have access to different health treatments to us and live different lifestyles so I would ignore this whatever it says...
vs
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/133857/1-in-4-cot-deaths-linked-to-swaddling-of-babies This is from 2009, so the advice is 3 years out of date.

dizsiebubba

ikkle87 wrote: »

I feel better once I've seen that bubs is ok on the scan but the lead up to it and my other appointments is so stressful and I always have that niggling fear what if today is the day they really can't find his heartbeat and he's not just hiding/playing up etc.

This is exactly how I feel!

savageHK

Rups: they recommend not to do it with a blanket as it's supposed to just wrap them up not also keep them warm. Or something like that. If you were going to put them under a blanket anyway and the room isn't too warm can't see what the problem would be though. Having said that I've bought two special swaddle blanket thingies which I'll be trying

savageHK

dizsiebubba wrote: »

Ok so I have no real opinion on it as i'm no expert... i'm just playing devils advocate here but...

Just pointing out that there's no consensus. If I had the raw data to play with I'd give it a go but all we have is the study results, which are hard to interpret.
And, the BMJ article from 2009 was based on data from 2003-2006 so also not bang up to date.

savageHK

Official NHS advice silent on swaddling: http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/getting-baby-to-sleep.aspx#Cot

Nephthys

Afternoon all!

Congrats to mummyof2 and SamW - fab names btw! Hope you're both doing ok.

Rups - that is awesome that BIL has moved out! Now you can really start planning baby's room and getting things sorted.

Re swaddling - DS didn't like it. He was very good at kicking back the blankets. As soon as he was 1 month old (minimum age as he met the weight restriction from birth ) I had him in a 2.5 tog sleeping bag. In fairness it was the coldest winter in about 30 years that year but he preferred to be much warmer than average (a bit like his dad). Every baby is different (and everyone's house will be a different temperature) and you just have no idea how your child will react until they are here. All you can do is read the advice and adapt it to yourself, your baby and your circumstances. It's not wrong - it's common sense. Babies lose most of their heat through their heads (as we all do) - hence the no hat indoors advice.

Hospital bags - I can't remember when I did mine last time. i think I was fairly well sorted by 34 weeks. Just needed summat to wear going home by then which went in eventually. I had the small boots bag for baby, a bag with stuff for me for overnight with the usual nighty, pads, snacks, etc. I also had a third bag left at home packed for DH just in case I was kept in for whatever reason so he wouldn't be in a flap about what was needed. Didn't need that bag in the end but will do the same again this time just in case! I have now got the Boots change bag and the wee pack of pampers nappies in it so have sort of started! Get me!

martafdz

Wow, maybe my DH was right to go into panic mode, I have not even thought of doing the hospital bag yet, and I am 30 weeks... Which is also the week I was born, lol. I will start thinking about it then. DH called me to ask if I had bought something else, if I have sorted anything... sometimes I think he is the pregnant one with all the rushing and "we need to be ready" stuff! Lol
I am going to try to sort out half a wardrobe then.

I guess it all comes down to preferences (baby, parents, culture, mw advice...), I do not think I will try anyway, I cannot see how being inmobile but straight can be good for thevdevelopment of their joints. In the womb they didn't have much room but they werevalso in a "C" position with legs and arms bent, I cannot see hiw they will be more comfy all straighten up. But that is a personal opinion.

Rups, you can always go private and fo a 3D or 4D scan? it is pricey (£65 to £150, depending of the clinic and what kind of scan), but you can see the face, with expressions and everything, like a photo. If you really want to do it, I think you can only for it before the 29-30 week, otherwise the baby will be too big for a scan.