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  • aliasojo
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    Probably not copy and paste but comment banks. Most high schools now have a computer system with a set of comments for each subject. Teachers just tick the boxes next to the statements which are needed. Sometimes the comment banks have he instead of a section for the computer to fill in the gender.

    I think that is pretty awful tbh.

    I do understand that teachers have to write out many reports and it must be a bit tedious, but automating the process to that degree is wrong. Imo.

    It smacks of disinterest and that's the last thing a pupil or parent wants to feel.
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  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    aliasojo wrote: »
    I think that is pretty awful tbh.

    I do understand that teachers have to write out many reports and it must be a bit tedious, but automating the process to that degree is wrong. Imo.

    It smacks of disinterest and that's the last thing a pupil or parent wants to feel.

    I disagree there - whether its on a computer or in their head, teachers may use set statements when they complete pupils reports.
    My DD has had the same teacher in 2 separate school years, and her reports from this teacher are very similar in wording. Also the head teacher/deputy head puts comments on the end of each pupil's end of year report, and they are pretty much word-for-word the same on some of the reports. It doesn't mean they don't know my daughter or her abilities, they do, very well, and I can see that from what they put on her report.
  • PinkLipgloss
    PinkLipgloss Posts: 1,451 Forumite
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    Writing reports without some sort of automation is highly impractical! I'm sure most, if not all, teachers would agree with that.

    However, that is not to say that every child has to fit into a pre-programmed tick box. There are always options to free type which are often used in conjunction with automation. It makes sense to do the reports as efficiently as possible as whilst they are very important for school/parent communication they essentially take time away from planning for teaching/learning which is what being a teacher is all about.

    That said, regardless of how reports are prepared I think it smacks of disinterest to have inaccurate statements (incorrect use of he/she and comments about how someone enjoyed something they didn't do etc).

    I personally keep a notebook with sections for each child where I write comments throughout the year - a lot of which ends up in reports. I also proof read my reports and the school arranges 2 further proof readings to ensure there are no mistakes in terms of he/she etc. However, ultimately I am responsible for their content and accuracy and that is something I take seriously.

    A few weeks ago I had a parent question that part of my design and technology comments stated that her daughter missed X project work. She complained that her daughter NEVER missed a single day of school and was upset by my lack of accuracy. However, I checked my notes and lo-and-behold the daughter had been in school but left early afternoon to attend a doctors appointment!

    To be fair the mother was very apologetic however it just goes to show how people can become upset if they think you are simply making the reports up as you go along (and there are unfortunately teachers out there who do this).
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  • room512
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    We used to use a tick box system to write our reports but the new head soon got rid of that! I can honestly say (as a primary school teacher with 50 reports to write!) that I typed each and every one without cutting and pasting any comments and it took hours!!!! Some comments are similar but there are only so many ways that you can say the same thing!
  • pollypenny
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    I dont think its too big a deal. Maybe it would be with GCSE results or ALevel but your son/daughter is 5 years old!



    O-level and A-level results used to be published in the newspaper.

    Haven't had time to read whole thread, but it's while since there's been a teacher-bashing one.
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  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    pollypenny wrote: »
    O-level and A-level results used to be published in the newspaper.

    Haven't had time to read whole thread, but it's while since there's been a teacher-bashing one.

    this isn't a teacher-bashing one (not yet, anyway).
  • aliasojo wrote: »
    I think that is pretty awful tbh.

    I do understand that teachers have to write out many reports and it must be a bit tedious, but automating the process to that degree is wrong. Imo.

    It smacks of disinterest and that's the last thing a pupil or parent wants to feel.

    I don't agree. For about 90% of my students I will use the same comments no matter if I'm using the comment banks or doing it in my head. For example "Little Johnie's x test was an improvement on y test, showing good progression over the year" or Little Jane must make more of an effort in her homework". There is the option to put in free text but there's only a few times a class I think a statement doesn't suit and I need to add extra comments. The problem comes when the statements are put in without the merge in place to sort he/she out correctly.

    I have some year groups where I teach over 120 students - writing all those reports out from scratch in the two weeks I'm given to do reports would be impractical and draw my attention for more important things like actually teaching. Especially at this time of year where there are three year group reports being prepared back to back.

    I personally find reports to be pretty redundant anyway. Test results are communicated home by most students, students doing really well get letters home, pupils doing average get their achievement certificates and pupils who are having problems get phone calls home; combined with parents evenings this means most parents have a very good idea where their child is at, at least at my school. The reports are never a surprise and never contain new information.
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  • quietheart
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    I saw my mum's heart consultant who was talking about the results of a heart test. He said that from the results he'd seen he'd have to recommend surgery, I was confused, I didn't recall my mum having the test in question, I asked him to check and he showed me the results. At that point I noticed the wrong date of birth (out by more than 20 years) and a totally different name.
    There were about 10 pages of a stranger's note stapled into my mum's file.
    I was just glad I was there so my mum wasn't sent for surgery she didn't need!
    We didn't complain, the consultant assured me he'd be doing his own investigation (he was rather embarrassed so I took him at his word!)
    So yes, this is small fry but a fairly normal response from a first time mum. With later children you don't stress so much.
  • nahidaakhtar
    nahidaakhtar Posts: 69 Forumite
    thank you all who have given me helpful advice, i shall go to the school on monday and ask for the right result and apologise for over reacting!
  • nahidaakhtar
    nahidaakhtar Posts: 69 Forumite
    could you help me on another matter so i dont make a hash of this too!!!

    my child goes to nursery who do a drop off to the school for me as part of the report they give you they also list attendances/times late etc.
    now he has been late to school on 3 occasions the nursery havent mentioned it to me at all. i only found out due to the report. he did get there before registration but was marked as late.

    i was thinking that i should just mention it quite casually ad say that thy need to try and get there a little earlier as hes been late. theres only a few weeks left now anyway.
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