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mrochester wrote: »

They weren't. They were designing a mobile OS that competed with the most popular smartphone OS of the time, Symbian. As far as Google were concerned prior to January 2007, this was what they were competing with.

Symbian by that point was an advanced operating system with full touch-screen support, as was Windows Mobile.

What's the cost of a prototype device got to do with how quickly they put together a touch based UI?

You're making the tenuous link between the two yourself.

I think you need to tell that to the people who think iOS doesn't multitask. You're not telling me anything I don't already know here.

I disagree.

mrochester

Symbian by that point was an advanced operating system with full touch-screen support, as was Windows Mobile.

I should clarify that I was referring to Symbian S60. S60 didn't gain touchscreen support until late in 2007, again, in response to Apple.

You're making the tenuous link between the two yourself.

I haven't mentioned the cost of prototypes devices anywhere.

buscape

anewhope wrote: »

Symbian by that point was an advanced operating system with full touch-screen support, as was Windows Mobile.

A point a lot of people fail to acknowledge.

noticen112 wrote:

ios 6 stable?

According to this link, it's not too bad.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1676906

mrochester

Your thinking is obviously biased by the distrotion field apple have you under

Well I guess that means your thinking must be biased by the distortion field Google have you under. Or more realistically, I simply don't agree with you.

Its not an insult if its true.

It's always an insult. You're just lashing out at me challenging you. Please try to post in a mature and respectful manner as there's no need to be rude.

How it works in iOS isn't true multi-tasking.

Performing more than one task at the same time is multitasking.

buscape

mrochester wrote: »

I should clarify that I was referring to Symbian S60. S60 didn't gain touchscreen support until late in 2007, again, in response to Apple.

Symbian with the Series 90 user interface had touch input since 2004 in the 7710.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7710

mrochester wrote: »

S60 didn't gain touchscreen support until late in 2007, again, in response to Apple.

True. Nokia, stupidly, didn't take the iPhone seriously enough. Not surprising given it's complete lack of features and the big success of it's traditional, keypad driven N95.

mrochester

buscape wrote: »

Symbian with the Series 90 user interface had touch input since 2004 in the 7710.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7710

True, Nokia didn't take the iPhone seriously enough. Not surprising given it's complete lack of features and the big success of it's traditional, keypad driven N95.

Yeah it was keypad driven smartphones that were by far and away leading the market pre 2007. This is what Google would have been aiming their competing product towards. Until Apple announced the iPhone of course! I think Google very wisely took Apple seriously unlike pretty much the rest of the competition.

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mrochester wrote: »

I should clarify that I was referring to Symbian S60. S60 didn't gain touchscreen support until late in 2007, again, in response to Apple.

Microsoft had touch-enabled devices as early as 1990 in case you weren't aware.

I haven't mentioned the cost of prototypes devices anywhere.

The point you're trying to hamfist to support your partisan view of Apple is ignoring any semblance of reality in bringing a mobile device to market.

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mrochester wrote: »

Performing more than one task at the same time is multitasking.

The context is in relation to third-party applications, not core operating system functions.

mrochester

anewhope wrote: »

Microsoft had touch-enabled devices as early as 1990 in case you weren't aware.



The point you're trying to hamfist to support your partisan view of Apple is ignoring any semblance of reality in bringing a mobile device to market.

Google were either exceptionally slow to bring a device to market (2005-2008 plus the 2003-2005 pre-Google development of Android) or they changed course part way through development (say, January 2007).

anewhope wrote:

The context is in relation to third-party applications, not core operating system functions.

I have a third party podcasting application that runs in the background.

23n1th wrote:

Not really and for reasons I've already posted. Its not that you don't agree you simply can't, apple wont allow you.

23n1th wrote:

Is it rude to suggest you can't see the truth because you're too blinded by your faith? No.

Here we go with the conspiracy theories again!

23n1th wrote:

How is paused in memory performing anything???

Things paused in the background isn't multitasking. Things running in the background is multitasking. iOS does both.

23n1th wrote:

I think we might be wasting our time, chesters mind is made up.

I'm not asking for any help to make up my mind; I already know what I know.

buscape

mrochester wrote: »

I have a third party podcasting application that runs in the background.

Things paused in the background isn't multitasking. Things running in the background is multitasking. iOS does both.

We've been through this, only 5 types of third party apps are alllowed to run in the background indefinitely. Audio playback is one of those.

By your own definition, iOS doesn't multitask properly as the majority of apps are suspended/paused when they aren't in the foreground.

Once again;

So all apps get five seconds of Background running, to clean things up, and some apps (such as Instacast) can request a ten-minute extension. There are, however, a small number of apps that genuinely need to run indefinitely in the background, and iOS allows this.

There are exactly five kinds of apps allowed to run indefinitely in the Background state in iOS 5:

Apps that play audio while in the Background state. A good example is Instacast while it’s playing a podcast.

Apps that track your location in the background. For example, you still want voice prompts from your turn-by-turn GPS navigation app, even if another app is Active.

Apps that listen for incoming voice-over-IP (VOIP) calls. If you use Skype on iOS, you can receive incoming Skype calls while the app is in the background.

Newsstand apps that are downloading new content.

Apps that receive continuous updates from an external accessory in the background.

All well-written apps in the above categories should become Suspended when they are no longer performing the task in hand. When Instacast finishes playing a podcast, it should be Suspended.

There are some built-in apps that also run continuously in the background on iOS—the most-used one is probably Mail.