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  • mrochester
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    If the PC was iOS based, I could save my Word document and come back to it while Photoshop did it's business. But I couldn't type while Photoshop is doing it's business.

    On iOS you'd be able to go away and type and when you switch back to Photoshop it would have finished applying the filter. That's how iOS works.
  • cubegame
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    mrochester wrote: »
    On iOS you'd be able to go away and type and when you switch back to Photoshop it would have finished applying the filter. That's how iOS works.

    Doesn't seem to work on the iPhone 4 I've just tried it on.....not with non-system apps anyway.

    Although I'm sure you will now be at pains to point out why it wouldn't be necessary on a phone anyway.....that's how these things usually go.
  • buscape
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    edited 19 June 2012 at 5:10PM
    mrochester wrote: »
    On iOS you'd be able to go away and type and when you switch back to Photoshop it would have finished applying the filter. That's how iOS works.
    Not strictly true. To take the Photoshop example, you'd apply your filter, switch away to Safari for example and Photoshop would have 10 minutes to apply the filter before it gets moved to suspended. If it doesn't finish within 10 minutes, it can't finish until you switch back to it.
    If someone tells you that all the apps in the multitasking bar are running, using up memory or sucking power, they are wrong.

    When you hit the home button, an app moves from Active to Background and quickly to the Suspended state, where it no longer uses CPU time or drains power.

    An app may request an additional ten minutes of Background running to complete a big task before becoming Suspended.

    If memory is becoming scarce, iOS will automatically move Suspended apps into the Not Running state and reclaim their memory.

    Five classes of apps—audio, GPS, VOIP, Newsstand and accessory apps—and some built-in apps such as Mail may run indefinitely in the background until they complete their task.
    iOS mutitasks, but not fully. Android and Symbian seem to be only OS's that multitask fully.

    Read this link for more - http://www.macworld.com/article/1164616/how_ios_multitasking_really_works.html
  • mrochester
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    Not strictly true. To take the Photoshop example, you'd apply your filter, switch away to Safari for example and Photoshop would have 10 minutes to apply the filter before it gets moved to suspended. If it doesn't finish within 10 minutes, it can't finish until you switch back to it.

    That's correct, but I wouldn't anticipate a filter to take more than 10 minutes to apply so I didn't think it was worth mentioning.
  • buscape
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    23n1th wrote: »
    Using your own logic against you this as quoted by the troll
    Who's the troll?
  • MikeWhite
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    buscape wrote: »
    Who's the troll?

    I take it to mean iTroll (a.k.a. theGoodman).

    Mike
  • mrochester
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    edited 19 June 2012 at 5:39PM
    Yes you have. you been given the evidence. The fact you refuse to recognise it is your problem.
    All we've seen is a video from after the iPhone was announced, at which point the contents of the video could be a response to what Apple had announced. What we need is evidence from before the iPhone was announced.
    How exactly does it tie up? It doesn't. What your point shows is that you are willing to ignore evidence just to come to false conclusions that fit with what you want to be true. They demoed two prototypes.
    I've looked at the evidence (the November 2007 video) and it appears to show a very limited demo of the touch based capability of Android. This would seem to suggest that such a limited demo was hastily put together after Apple announced the iPhone. If you've got anything that shows something to the contrary, please let us all know!
    How exactly did google come up with a fully functioning touch interface in such a short time???
    They didn't. It took them 22 months after the announcement of the iPhone to do so.
    Unless you have any evidence to the contrary, the my conclusions are the most likely given the evidence that we have.
    You haven't linked to any other evidence that would change my conclusion.
    No mention there about running in the background. No multitasking!!!!!!
    I think you're lacking a fundamental understanding of how multitasking works in iOS. I have things running in the background all the time. That's multitasking.
    Is that you caught out again.:rotfl::rotfl:

    Nope because it would behave in the way I described :)
  • buscape
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    edited 19 June 2012 at 5:50PM
    23n1th wrote: »
    So even though you can't do proper multi-tasking on iOS, this is a feature directly copied from Android!
    It isn't. The smartphone platforms around before Android did mutitasking.
    mrochester wrote: »
    I think you're lacking a fundamental understanding of how multitasking works in iOS. I have things running in the background all the time. That's multitasking.
    You haven't got things running in the background at all, they're suspended. Mutitasking means apps are actively working in the background, which they aren't in iOS unless they fall into certain categories, as shown here;

    http://www.macworld.com/article/1164616/how_ios_multitasking_really_works.html
  • mrochester
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    You haven't got things running in the background at all, they're suspended. Mutitasking means apps are actively working in the background, which they aren't in iOS unless they fall into certain categories, as shown here;
    You're rather contradicting yourself there by first telling me apps are suspended, and then telling me they are running in the background!

    I can see for myself when an app is running in the background as either the task it was set to do before I switched away from has completed, or I can still hear the audio from the app even though I am doing something else with the phone. Like I originally said, I have things running in the background all the time.
  • buscape
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    edited 19 June 2012 at 5:58PM
    mrochester wrote: »
    You're rather contradicting yourself there but first telling me they are suspended, and then telling me they are running in the background!
    Read the link I posted, you'll understand what I mean. Certain types of apps CAN run in the background indefinitely, apps that don't fall into this category CAN'T run in the background, and are suspended (still in memory but not executing code).

    As I've said, iOS can multitask, but not fully.
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