Allowance for clothes

Kimberley82

poet123 wrote: »

And I bet both take them out for work? And that any tattoos are covered? I was thinking more of nose piercings and other areas, but eyebrows can't really be hidden either unless you have a long floppy fringe!!

Still, I know about the law sphere (I have two sons who are Lawyers) and having piercings is certainly not the norm and would definitely limit the career opportunities in what is already a competitive field, ditto teachers, I have one of those too.

I am not sure why anyone would actively assist their child to do that.

the piercings stay in, the teacher has his tats on view the lawyer does not

poet123

Kimberley82 wrote: »

the piercings stay in, the teacher has his tats on view the lawyer does not

Regardless, why limit career opportunities? Which it certainly will/does.

Cat501

poet123 wrote: »

And I bet both take them out for work? And that any tattoos are covered? I was thinking more of nose piercings and other areas, but eyebrows can't really be hidden either unless you have a long floppy fringe!!

Still, I know about the law sphere (I have two sons who are Lawyers) and having piercings is certainly not the norm and would definitely limit the career opportunities in what is already a competitive field, ditto teachers, I have one of those too.

I am not sure why anyone would actively assist their child to do that.

You seem a bit obsessed with the possibility of having limited access to "high powered" careers, particularly law. Well done to your two sons, but some people actually don't care if they'd be accepted in the law profession or not because they have zero interest in doing it!

There you go - I'd say Kimberley has put the idea that piercings are an absolute no-no for teachers well and truly to bed.

Kimberley82

poet123 wrote: »

Regardless, why limit career opportunities? Which it certainly will/does.

life is more than about what job you have, they both got them as adults.

I wouldnt approve of my children doing it under 20 tbh but at they are adults and can choose

Mrs_Ryan

No I would have kicked off if they tried to dress me the way I didnt want to be dressed! I was a right tomboy who liked jeans/trousers/tracksuits etc, if my Mum had been wanting to dress me in frilly party dresses when I was 9 (especially considering I started my periods then and I was shall we say quite well developed) I wouldnt have been happy! I was given the choice when my Mum was buying my clothes - if something wasnt right she would veto it but normally she was happy and she would buy it. We clashed once or twice but could usually come to some sort of compromise. I dont see what's wrong at that age to say be given small choices when its appropriate.

mumps

poet123 wrote: »

Really? without being judgmental here I would have been horrified. I think 16/17 is early enough to be dressing in such an extreme and different way. The transition to Secondary school is hard enough without being so different from your peers. I think, and I hope I do not offend here (I fear I will!) that is is an example of allowing very young children a major input into how they dress, by the time they reach the age where their input is expected they have already experimented and may then feel the need to go to extremes. What follows? tattoos at 13? With the parent pretending they are older to get around the laws?

My experience is the opposite of this, I will give you an example. I have a friend who has very set ideas on how her children should look. When her son was wearing M & S trousers, shirts and smart jumpers at 12 mine was well I don't even know how to describe his slightly wacky outfits. He wore uniform to school and if we were going to something formal he dressed appropriately but otherwise we let him choose, even thought I sometimes cringed. By the time they were doing A levels my son had short hair and dressed very smartly, her son had tattooes and those piercings which stretch the ears, don't know what they are called. She used to laugh at my son when he was 12, who is laughing now?

aliasojo

Mrs_Ryan wrote: »

I dont see what's wrong at that age to say be given small choices when its appropriate.

There's nothing wrong with that.

There's everything wrong in a 9 year old kicking off and not accepting parental authority.

poet123

Cat501 wrote: »

You seem a bit obsessed with the possibility of having limited access to "high powered" careers, particularly law. Well done to your two sons, but some people actually don't care if they'd be accepted in the law profession or not because they have zero interest in doing it!

There you go - I'd say Kimberley has put the idea that piercings are an absolute no-no for teachers well and truly to bed.

No, I am not obsessed, but for the life of me I can't see why as a parent you would assist a child to limit their career ops by decisions made when they were very young.

As for teachers, the same applies, one or several, may have got jobs with visible piercings, but many more won't, and for every teaching job there are a lot of applicants. I know because I sit on a governing body and regularly interview teachers.

Nor is it just those two professions, many others are going to be difficult to get into. Anyway, each to their own, as long as they and their parents are prepared to take the consequences of their choices that is fine.:D

Kimberley82 wrote: »

life is more than about what job you have, they both got them as adults.

I wouldnt approve of my children doing it under 20 tbh but at they are adults and can choose

Of course life is more than a job, but most of us have to work, and the economic situation means that you need to maximise your job opps not limit them.

poet123

mumps wrote: »

My experience is the opposite of this, I will give you an example. I have a friend who has very set ideas on how her children should look. When her son was wearing M & S trousers, shirts and smart jumpers at 12 mine was well I don't even know how to describe his slightly wacky outfits. He wore uniform to school and if we were going to something formal he dressed appropriately but otherwise we let him choose, even thought I sometimes cringed. By the time they were doing A levels my son had short hair and dressed very smartly, her son had tattooes and those piercings which stretch the ears, don't know what they are called. She used to laugh at my son when he was 12, who is laughing now?

There is always an example of the other side of the coin.;)

Kimberley82

poet123 wrote: »

There is always an example of the other side of the coin.;)

But that happens alot, children who are given no room to express themselves or make any choices can often end up really rebeling, not always but it does happen