Tyre Damage - is it safe to drive

alastairq

Regardless, the presumption still stands.

The Police are required to apply the Law as it stands, not make things up simply because they personally don't like the look of things.
Regardless of which part of the British Isles they operate within.


If you have direct experience of the legal situation you describe vis-a-vis your company vans, then that is the sort of advice that is needed.


Not sheer opinion based upon what may well be nothing more than urban myth?


BTW, personally I have no issues with fitting the cheapest of tyres.....[for that, too, can be affected by scaremongering opinion]....but I would certainly only recommend such action for others, under certain proviso's...many of which a lot of folk on here roundly ignore anyway.

LordSVS

photome wrote: »

Except there is nothing wrong with the tyre and is legal. As I said so many scaremomgers on here

£40 tyres are not worth fitting IMO

It depends on the tyre. My Volvo tyres cost £200 a shot, but my company vans are £40 a shot (I think the most expensive tyre for that model is around £70). Looking at the picture, it doesn't look like a Range Rover tyre, so it won't cost £250 plus.

Lord SVS

Weird_Nev

LordSVS wrote: »

To continue to drive with a tyre like that is irresponsible. Drive to the nearest tyre place and get it sorted. You're not only putting yourself (and whoever else in the car), in danger, but you're also putting me and my family in danger.

If the police were to stop you and check the tyres, you would be handed a £60 fine and 3 points. It's not worth it. Get a cheap £40 tyre fitted and everyone will be happy.

I take it with such strong views on the subject, you remove all your tyres on a weekly basis and inspect them to check for damage both inside and outside?
And all your van drivers are responsible drivers who never bump up and down kerbs thus potentially causing invisible internal damage to the structure of the tyres?
And you change tyres (and possibly alloys and any other suspension components) as a precaution after hitting a pot hole?

Get a grip. There is nothing dangerous or illegal about that tyre as photographed. I AM a serving police officer, it's my job to look at tyres (on occasion, I deal with real crime normally) and If that damage was the only damage to a tyre I would not even find it worthy of comment.

Check the rules and regs, you're likely spending FAR too much on replacing perfectly good tyres (unless of course your job is supplying dunlop tyres, which might explain your willingness to scare monger and your suggestion that you buy a cheap scottish tyre!)

mikey72

LordSVS wrote: »

My recommendation to get a cheap £40 tyre is a sensible recommendation. There are a number of VERY good cheap tyres out there. I use £40 tyres on my company vans. They are Dunlop (I only buy Scottish) and they last around 20,000 miles.

The police around here are very strict on these things. The wheel is damaged, it needs replaced. I know if one of my company vans were in an accident, and a tyre was found out to be like that, my backside would be sued, even if I do have the best lawyers in the land.

Scott

Legally the tyre is fine. Dunlop haven't made a tyre in the uk since 2006. They're a brand name of Goodyear and Sumitomo and will be made in somewhere like China, or Poland. They'll have the manufacturing country stamped on the tyre in you want to have a look, but at least your're trying to buy british. .

LordSVS

Weird_Nev wrote: »

I take it with such strong views on the subject, you remove all your tyres on a weekly basis and inspect them to check for damage both inside and outside?
And all your van drivers are responsible drivers who never bump up and down kerbs thus potentially causing invisible internal damage to the structure of the tyres?
And you change tyres (and possibly alloys and any other suspension components) as a precaution after hitting a pot hole?

Get a grip. There is nothing dangerous or illegal about that tyre as photographed. I AM a serving police officer, it's my job to look at tyres (on occasion, I deal with real crime normally) and If that damage was the only damage to a tyre I would not even find it worthy of comment.

Check the rules and regs, you're likely spending FAR too much on replacing perfectly good tyres (unless of course your job is supplying dunlop tyres, which might explain your willingness to scare monger and your suggestion that you buy a cheap scottish tyre!)

That's rather concerning if you are a police officer. Your standards have dropped since your two year probation. You would be out the job in my local force if you responded to a member of the public with such tosh.

I check my personal vehicle tyres every Sunday (it's only the day I get a minute to myself), I check the oil, water, tyres etc. Oil is changed every 18,000 (which works out to be every 6 months) and filters are also changed.

My companies have policies in place where staff will go over the tyres, lights and livery every morning. A more in-depth inspection happens every 2 weeks. In house servicing happens every 6 weeks etc. Vehicles are maintained to a high standard.

We have a very similar vehicle policy to the local police service (most of the family are in the police you see).

I should add, Dunlop are a pretty expensive brand compared to other major tyre makers like Michelin. In fact, I can get Michelin tyres cheaper than Dunlop!

Lord SVS

LordSVS

mikey72 wrote: »

Legally the tyre is fine. Dunlop haven't made a tyre in the uk since 2006. They're a brand name of Goodyear and Sumitomo and will be made in somewhere like China, or Poland. They'll have the manufacturing country stamped on the tyre in you want to have a look, but at least your're trying to buy british. .

We always try to buy Scottish where we can (personally and professional in my companies). Since Scotland doesn't make tyre's, we have decided to go with Dunlop because it was founded in Scotland by a Scotman. It's the nearest to Scottish we can find. Until such times tyres are made in Scotland, we will stick with Dunlop.

Lord SVS

mikey72

LordSVS wrote: »

We always try to buy Scottish where we can (personally and professional in my companies). Since Scotland doesn't make tyre's, we have decided to go with Dunlop because it was founded in Scotland by a Scotman. It's the nearest to Scottish we can find. Until such times tyres are made in Scotland, we will stick with Dunlop.

Lord SVS

You're not exactly on a roll today, are you? Dunlop Pneumatic tyre Co was fiunded in Ireland. John Boyd Dunlop had moved from Scotland many years before he invented the tyre. (Well actually he didn't, he was beaten to it by a scotsman, Thomson, living in France, who had patented it earlier) Dunlop never came back to scotland. Thomson did.

Lum

alastairq wrote: »

The Police are required to apply the Law as it stands, not make things up simply because they personally don't like the look of things.

Though in reality that's pretty much exactly what happens. Especially if you're young.

LordSVS

mikey72 wrote: »

You're not exactly on a roll today, are you? Dunlop Pneumatic tyre Co was fiunded in Ireland. John Boyd Dunlop had moved from Scotland many years before he invented the tyre. (Well actually he didn't, he was beaten to it by a scotsman, Thomson, living in France, who had patented it earlier) Dunlop never came back to scotland. Thomson did.

It's irrelevant if he went on the odd holiday, it was a Scotman. As you know, most things in the modern world was invented by Scots.

Lord SVS

mikey72

What, like underwear? But if moving across an ocean for your entire life then dying abroad is an occasional holiday, I can truely see your line of reasoning there.