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Orchid V4, V4+ and Ranger 400 phone users - Discussion

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  • This is not an 0870 number that then asks you to enter in the telephone number you require.

    This is an 0870 number that routes to another offshore number.

    A bit like all the other companies do.

    Is this classed as indirect? If so surely every other 0870 number does the same.
    5KW solar, Lux 3.8KW inverter, Uhome 2400 LPF x 6, SOLIC 200 immerser diverter, Leaf 62Kwh, MG ZSev, Ohme home charger, Zappi v2.1,  Import: Octopus intelligent ; Export: Octopus Energy Export, 15KW biomass pellet boiler - Windhager., Home Assistant (newbie)
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Maybe have to "wait and see" if they are able to spot it - they do use software to detect when indirect access numbers/data access etc are being dialled.
  • KevinLawry wrote: »
    Let me know how you get on, it seems to work OK on my machine, but you know how fickle computers can be - it would be good to get a feel for how it fares in the real world

    Brilliant :T

    It’s so easy from my laptop with built in modem..

    Only mistake i can find is whats already been mentioned with the area code - easily solved by just putting an apostrophe ' in front of the 'area code' you use..

    When setting the time (So easy - just press F9!) - which one does it use, the actual or +5mins ?

    To reflect the 'Heinz' setup all I have changed is the weekday/weekend times (06001800/00002359) & the latest updates for routing codes 15 & 16 (553\533)

    I actually feel more confident resetting my box via this then I ever did via the dial up method - I was never able to get that to work first time.

    Many thanks for this - As long as 'Heinz' keeps posting updates to his program (more thanks!) I may now seriously think about buying another one of these boxes before they become obsolete (Why didn't orchid come up with this ? - it would have been great if they supplied it with the box)

    Thank again. :beer:
  • I'll release a new version at the weekend with that error corrected, but manually changing it will work for now.

    The time codes displayed are for people who want to dial by hand, which is why you have a choice of right now, or in a couple of minutes, I was thinking of people like my mum who would take a couple of minutes to enter the string if doing it by hand.

    when you let the spreadsheet do its own thing it uses the system time to calculate the code on the fly and enter it accuratly regardless of what is displayed on screen - or at least as accurate as the time set on your computer
  • Kevin,

    Is there anyway you can think of getting this DECT phone to work?

    I have tried,

    Having thephone off the hook at the same time as the modem dialling, connecting modem directly to phone andno success.



    I would really like to get this to work .
    5KW solar, Lux 3.8KW inverter, Uhome 2400 LPF x 6, SOLIC 200 immerser diverter, Leaf 62Kwh, MG ZSev, Ohme home charger, Zappi v2.1,  Import: Octopus intelligent ; Export: Octopus Energy Export, 15KW biomass pellet boiler - Windhager., Home Assistant (newbie)
  • As I said before, I do not have a dect unit, and have not even seen one, so my ideas are just that, ideas with no practical experience of the unit.

    That said, there are a couple of things that _I_ would try in your position,

    1) Cheapest, but unlikely to work - take your dect handset, take it off hook so that you have a dial tone, run the program and hold the mouthpiece of the dect unit by the modems speaker so that it can pick up the tones (on mine the sound plays through the computers sound card, so I would put headphones in and put them nect to the 'phone mouthpiece). Very 'old school' crude, but if it works, very cheap.

    2) There used to be available DECT modems - a quick google failed to turn one up, but you might find one on E-bay or the like, if you registered one to the base station that would probably do the trick.

    3) There are DECT 'extention leads' where you get a box with a 'phone socket that registers as a 'phone handset - you could connect one of those to your DECT base station and then use your standard modem plugged in to that - a quick google found an example here http://www.cordless-phones.uk.com/cordless-phones/dect-range-extenders-repeaters/wireless-phone-jack-rtx/?referrer=froogle&keyword=rtx%2Bwireless%2Bphone%2Bjack%2Brtx I have no idea if that is a good price or not, but it will show you what I mean.

    There you go - thats about all I can offer, lifting the handset & letting the modem dial will not work, because the modem is talking to the wrong side of the unit - it is talking to the side that plus in to the BT network.

    If anyone has a PDF of the manual for the DECT unit I'll take a look, but I think those are the only options. If _anyone_ with a DECT unit can try method 1 and see if it will work it would be good feedback, if it works for someone, it might be just a question of getting a cleaner audio output to make it work as a general solution.

    Over to the rest of you, good luck:beer:
  • The phone is similar to this one
    http://www.rowtex.co.uk/lorad/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1013

    The manual does not show anthing about the dialler that is used.

    It is a hidden feature.

    Phone model LR329+
    5KW solar, Lux 3.8KW inverter, Uhome 2400 LPF x 6, SOLIC 200 immerser diverter, Leaf 62Kwh, MG ZSev, Ohme home charger, Zappi v2.1,  Import: Octopus intelligent ; Export: Octopus Energy Export, 15KW biomass pellet boiler - Windhager., Home Assistant (newbie)
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    newbuilder wrote: »
    After seeing an advert on here for an 0870 redirect number so that I can get the w/end calls inclusive to Australia I am trying the following:

    Australia through 18185 on day and eve.
    Austalia through 0870 number on W/end
    (any @@@@@@ signs are to avoid identifying specific numbers)

    Do I need to add the following to the carrier table
    *#**1280#0870@@@@@@@@*6
    *#**18185#0061@@@@@@@@*7

    and the routing table.
    *###0061#5677#20#

    I would ideally like to avoid the specific entry in routing 7 to the one number but as I am using the translate rule and not the allow rule I feel I need to translate the number for day and evening or is there a code to say disregard this for the evening and weekend and find the normal rule for international dialling?
    You missed one '8' in your new Carrier 7.

    You're right that, although an 'Allow' rule is needed for weekday and evening calls, the need to use a 'Translate' rule for weekends complicates matters and only a single 'Translate' Routing Rule would work - hence specific Carriers need to be added too.

    However, any Translate Carrier needs to be the complete number and I'm not sure you can program that many characters - it'd be 26 characters or so!

    If you can, your new Routing Rule 20 looks nearly right - but I think you've transposed the Carriers and it should be: *###0061#5776#20#

    Bear in mind though that will Translate ALL calls starting 0061 to the single specific Oz number in your new Carriers 6 and 7.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    I've taken the easy way out on the www.My0870.com 0870 number I have for a Spanish number we call regularly - it's programmed into a DECT handset with the 1280 prefix and the name, "Susan - Weekends"

    However, I have added 02077433399##### as a new Carrier and programmed that as the routing for my calls to 00349 (Spanish landlines) weekday evenings.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • To Heinz

    yeah i have done the same

    To KevinLawry.

    I try to amend your sheet to make 0870 and 0845 route through BT and 118 route through 0900192192 but when I go to save it the paper clip says "document not Saved"

    Any reason for this?

    To anyone that wants to listen!:confused:
    If you add an entry into the routing table or the carrier code, how do you delete the entry without clearing all the tables and adding them again.

    I tried *#***1 but didn't work.

    Ended up coding the full damn phone agian -manually as the force home didn't work either.
    5KW solar, Lux 3.8KW inverter, Uhome 2400 LPF x 6, SOLIC 200 immerser diverter, Leaf 62Kwh, MG ZSev, Ohme home charger, Zappi v2.1,  Import: Octopus intelligent ; Export: Octopus Energy Export, 15KW biomass pellet boiler - Windhager., Home Assistant (newbie)
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