leaving children for 6 months

euronorris

Gigervamp wrote: »

Good point. A lot of girls now start their periods at age 9 or 10. My DD did, and I didn't start until I was 15, so you can't go by when you started as a hereditory thing.

Yeah, it does happen. I started at 10, and so has one of my neices.

One of my friends was living with her Dad when she started. He tried his best to support her, and give her the info she needed, but the poor guy was a bit clueless himself about the real ins and outs of it, and she just craved her Mum (it wasn't an option for her to just pop over to Mum's at this point) or any female family member really. She still cringes about it now.

duchy

meritaten wrote: »

my sister has a sister-in-law who worked the cruise ships. as a singer so she was 'entertainment'. YOU would be a bit below that in the ship heirarchy. and as Jane McDonald is the only person I know that has been 'discovered' while working on a cruise ship (and that is only cos she was on a TV documentary) I think that your claim that its a step up in your career is rather spurious.
I think you want to run away - and you are choosing a very cowardly way of doing so. claiming to further your career - I dont think so - the successful hairdressers seem to be based on dry land!

I disagree
A stint on the cruise ships with a good hairdressing company is considered an asset by many good hairdressing firms. It's as much about the self sufficency and the attitude needed to work the ships as anything else-so it could definitely be a long term career asset. Not sure what you are going on about "discovered" though-it's not a reality show it's a career move....................however I see from other posts the OP has had a bit of a year .......and yes maybe part of wanting to go is to escapr from those problems-or even to ensure she has better career prospects in the future.I don't think these are always "bad" reasons -and men often do career stints for these kind of reasons so there is a male/female bias going on here BUT I do think the OP needs to be very honest at the least to herself what her motives are before deciding.

(I do think if a man had posted "I can take a job for a fixed term six months which will greatly improve my prospects and benefit my whole family" he'd be told to go for it and that his wife should be supporting him as it was for the benefit of them all. )

CH27

duchy wrote: »

I disagree
A stint on the cruise ships with a good hairdressing company is considered an asset by many good hairdressing firms. It's as much about the self sufficency and the attitude needed to work the ships as anything else-so it could definitely be a long term career asset. Not sure what you are going on about "discovered" though-it's not a reality show it's a career move....................however I see from other posts the OP has had a bit of a year .......and yes maybe part of wanting to go is to escapr from those problems-or even to ensure she has better career prospects in the future.I don't think these are always "bad" reasons -and men often do career stints for these kind of reasons so there is a male/female bias going on here BUT I do think the OP needs to be very honest at the least to herself what her motives are before deciding.

(I do think if a man had posted "I can take a job for a fixed term six months which will greatly improve my prospects and benefit my whole family" he'd be told to go for it and that his wife should be supporting him as it was for the benefit of them all. )

I think most people are advising caution due to knowing Kimberley's well documented problems over the last year.

I think it is a disaster in the making.

Welshwoofs

meritaten wrote: »

YOU would be a bit below that in the ship heirarchy. and as Jane McDonald is the only person I know that has been 'discovered' while working on a cruise ship (and that is only cos she was on a TV documentary) I think that your claim that its a step up in your career is rather spurious.

With all due respect, what on earth does being 'discovered' have to do with someone gaining experience in their profession by taking a job on a cruise liner?

I said it earlier in this thread and I'll say it again - a friend of mine from school did exactly what the op is contemplating. Her dream was to own a salon and working the cruise ships for a few years, running a salon there gave her both the experience and the money to set up for herself.

I dont think so - the successful hairdressers seem to be based on dry land!

Faulty logic. You see a successful hairdresser on dry land and assume they've never been at sea? My friend is a successful hairdresser and she's on dry land....but she wasn't always on dry land.

Out of interest meritaten - what do you do for a living? What's your career and how did you rise in it?

Seanymph

The point though surely is that it isn't the ONLY way that the OP can progress in her career.

She can improve her current choice in many ways, and leaving her children for six months is only one of those ways. And it may be as beneficial as she thinks, and it may not.

Other options may be more beneficial, or equally beneficial.

Therefore it's about priorities isn't it.

If your children are your priority you find an alternative way to get the same end result. If getting way from them is your priority you don't.

It strikes me as a way to bail from her relationship and family without taking on responsibility.

And I'll say it again. Women have a very different skillset than men when it comes to raising children. Especially young, dependent children who up to recently had their mother as their main carer.

quantumleap

Seanymph wrote: »

The point though surely is that it isn't the ONLY way that the OP can progress in her career.

She can improve her current choice in many ways, and leaving her children for six months is only one of those ways. And it may be as beneficial as she thinks, and it may not.

Other options may be more beneficial, or equally beneficial.

Therefore it's about priorities isn't it.

If your children are your priority you find an alternative way to get the same end result. If getting way from them is your priority you don't.

It strikes me as a way to bail from her relationship and family without taking on responsibility.


And I'll say it again. Women have a very different skillset than men when it comes to raising children. Especially young, dependent children who up to recently had their mother as their main carer.

I agree with this completely! Kimberley clearly has a decision to make and I think that ultimately, despite all of the varied and equally relevant comments on this thread, that choice can only be made by prioritizing what is important in her life. Her children, in my view, should top that list and as such leaving them for 6 months should not be the decision that wins out.


It'll be interesting to see if Kimberley comes back on the thread to share her thoughts on some of the advice she's been given.

FatVonD

Gigervamp wrote: »

Good point. A lot of girls now start their periods at age 9 or 10. My DD did, and I didn't start until I was 15, so you can't go by when you started as a hereditory thing.

I have a 13-year-old step daughter and, even though I'm a woman and we get on really well, I'm aware that should it happen when she's at our house we'll probably get a call from her mum saying she wants to come home early. We've left packs of stuff in both bathrooms but I agree, if and when it happens (if it hasn't already) she's going to want her mum.

pulliptears

duchy wrote: »

(I do think if a man had posted "I can take a job for a fixed term six months which will greatly improve my prospects and benefit my whole family" he'd be told to go for it and that his wife should be supporting him as it was for the benefit of them all. )

After reading the entire thread thats the quote that stuck out for me.

suki1001

Statistically, though most successful hairdressers will not have been on cruise ships to gain experience in their careers, in the grand scheme of things, it will be a very small number. Having used several hairdressers in my lifespan, who run their own salons, each one would reel off their life story and no-one mentioned a cruise ship, although one had worked in Sydney. You tend to find these things out because you have time to talk.

I think the majority of us on here would say go for it, IF it was done for the right reasons.

FatVonD

duchy wrote: »

(I do think if a man had posted "I can take a job for a fixed term six months which will greatly improve my prospects and benefit my whole family" he'd be told to go for it and that his wife should be supporting him as it was for the benefit of them all. )

I think he'd have got the same replies had he then said that his idea of career advancement was managing a bar in Ibiza because he knew someone that did that once that then went on to manage a bar at home afterwards though! And had Kimberley been, say, a zoologist wanting to work in tiger conservation in the field for 6 months or a scientist working on AIDS research that had the opportunity for some in-depth study that would put her at the top of her profession I think the answers may have been a little different.