How much child support?

shegirl

timberflake wrote: »

The main issue seems to be that my friends ex seems to forget that the money he provides is "Child Support" and not "Ex Support".

She seems to think that he should pay the difference between her rent and housing benefit, which he might be willing to do if she wasn't living in a 3 bed new build costing £750 pcm. She could just as easily find a nice 2 bed house for £50-£100 less a month.

She also thinks it's his responsibility to feed her as well as the child.

Where do you draw the line, if the housing benefit was cut by £200, would people still expect the father to pay £200 extra a month so they wouldn't have to move.

All he wants to do is make sure he pays the correct amount to ensure his daughter is looked after. This includes paying 50% of utilities, food, clothing, childcare, etc, but not making sure she's fed and kept in the lifetyle to which she has become acustom.

Oh,don't be ridiculous.Raising a child means having a roof over their head.If he's happy for it to go towards bills he should be happy for it to be used,if needed,towards rent so his daughter keeps the home she has.

What on earth is the issue with it?I really don't get it.

CSA will take a set percentage.Mother can do as she sees fit with it.The house is a home for her and her daughter,if she didn't have her daughter she wouldn't need 2 beds,nor 3,paying for the house isn't paying for herself -it's providing the family home.

I note my questions still haven't been answered either.To me it just sounds like someone is narky over the 3 bed new build being a 3 bed new build

Marisco

shegirl wrote: »

Oh,don't be ridiculous.Raising a child means having a roof over their head.If he's happy for it to go towards bills he should be happy for it to be used,if needed,towards rent so his daughter keeps the home she has.

What on earth is the issue with it?I really don't get it.

CSA will take a set percentage.Mother can do as she sees fit with it.The house is a home for her and her daughter,if she didn't have her daughter she wouldn't need 2 beds,nor 3,paying for the house isn't paying for herself -it's providing the family home.

I note my questions still haven't been answered either.To me it just sounds like someone is narky over the 3 bed new build being a 3 bed new build

My take on it (which could be wrong!!) is that he already pays CM, but she wants him to pay the shortfall in the rent, in addition to what he already pays. He needs to calculate what 15% of his income is and see if it's more or less than what he already pays. If it's less, then he needs to pay what the calculation says he should. If he pays more than the CSA calculation says he should, then he needs to show it to her. That might concentrate her mind a bit!!

CH27

timberflake wrote: »

The main issue seems to be that my friends ex seems to forget that the money he provides is "Child Support" and not "Ex Support".

She seems to think that he should pay the difference between her rent and housing benefit, which he might be willing to do if she wasn't living in a 3 bed new build costing £750 pcm. She could just as easily find a nice 2 bed house for £50-£100 less a month.

She also thinks it's his responsibility to feed her as well as the child.

Where do you draw the line, if the housing benefit was cut by £200, would people still expect the father to pay £200 extra a month so they wouldn't have to move.

All he wants to do is make sure he pays the correct amount to ensure his daughter is looked after. This includes paying 50% of utilities, food, clothing, childcare, etc, but not making sure she's fed and kept in the lifetyle to which she has become acustom.

Is he paying 15% of his net income?

shegirl

Marisco wrote: »

My take on it (which could be wrong!!) is that he already pays CM, but she wants him to pay the shortfall in the rent, in addition to what he already pays. He needs to calculate what 15% of his income is and see if it's more or less than what he already pays. If it's less, then he needs to pay what the calculation says he should. If he pays more than the CSA calculation says he should, then he needs to show it to her. That might concentrate her mind a bit!!

Oh I understand that,the op just seems to have a problem with maintenance being used in that way per se.She also asked how they could be sure any extra amount would be spent on the child. The ex may be wanting to go because he's paying less than the 15% and needs the full amount to help with housing costs.

shoe*diva79

Does he have children living with him? If so, there is a discount before working out CM payment. Really is best to plug his details into the CSA calculator and if he is paying less then he should then up his payment to thr correct amount. If he is paying more then either reduce his payment or show the PWC who can choose to go to the CSA if she wishes.

If the PWC does choose to go to the CSA your friend shold stop paying direct until an assessment has been completed so he does not pay twice.

timberflake

Well it turns out he's paying more than 15% of his net income, 17% to be precise. So she can whistle for any extra's.

There was never a problem with the housing situation as such, only that she NEEDS a house to raise the child in, but she doesnt NEED a 3 bed house @ £750 she can no longer afford due to a change in her housing benefit.

CH27

timberflake wrote: »

Well it turns out he's paying more than 15% of his net income, 17% to be precise. So she can whistle for any extra's.

There was never a problem with the housing situation as such, only that she NEEDS a house to raise the child in, but she doesnt NEED a 3 bed house @ £750 she can no longer afford due to a change in her housing benefit.

I don't get your resentment of her.

He needs to tell her how much she would get via the CSA & that she is better off without them.

Jacks_xxx

timberflake wrote: »

Well it turns out he's paying more than 15% of his net income, 17% to be precise. So she can whistle for any extra's.

There was never a problem with the housing situation as such, only that she NEEDS a house to raise the child in, but she doesnt NEED a 3 bed house @ £750 she can no longer afford due to a change in her housing benefit.

There's no problem with the mother of his child going to the CSA then is there?

Either way his child will suffer.

I must say, your friend has come across as if he has some kind of unresolved issue with the mother of his child, and not as if the child's welfare and happiness is one of his highest priorities.

BitterAndTwisted

lilymay1 wrote: »

What an unnecessarily nasty post, particularly as you know nothing about the specifics of the situation. I can see why your alias is 'Bitter and Twisted'.

Ho hum, yet another newbie getting on their high-horse about nothing that concerns them. At least I have an opinion about the subject at hand. In case you hadn't noticed we were invited to comment. And OF COURSE I don't know the specifics of the situation, none of us do. From the description of what's been going on this man has left the woman to raise his child on her own but sounds like he wants to control what goes on in someone else's household and the purse-strings as well. Fortunately real life doesn't work like that. The woman in question should go through the CSA and be done with it if she thinks she will get more. I suspect she may get a whole lot less.

But thank you for your most valuable contribution nonetheless.

timberflake

CH27 wrote: »

I don't get your resentment of her.

He needs to tell her how much she would get via the CSA & that she is better off without them.

There's no resentment, but she doesn't contribute anything of her own towards bringing up her child, its all given to her. And when the goverment take some off her she immediately turns to the father expecting him to make up the shortfall.

Thanks for everyones input, at least he can now tell her that no further funds with be forthcoming as she already gets more than the CSA would take.