Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

kippen_noedel

vinnyph wrote: »

so many times by many people.

I never saw this post that the many have quoted (OK, so the many is 3 or 4 including you, & the forum membership is what, over 900,000, so not that many really, just another exaggeration by you) Can you provide a link to it, so I can see for myself ?

vinnyph wrote: »

What about the time that you inferred that Nigewick used to stitch people up when he was a policeman. .

I missed that one as well, can you post a link to it ??

On a separate note, is it still true that UW have THE MOST EXPENSIVE prices for people who have prepay meters for gas and electricity ??

vinnyph

kippen_noedel wrote: »

You must be a true believer then, only the misguided can say they make mistakes but still believe their own propaganda.

I feel sorry for you but even sorrier for those poor friends and family that trusted you to sign up for one of the most expensive tariffs in the UK for gas and electricity.

Yet to see you justify the very high prices on offer from UW, but that's nothing new, you never do answer a direct question in regard to them. After all, even the fanatic can't justify the outrageous..

What are you going to do then start making attacks against me and Christianity again then like you did before. Or will it be that I am a Distributor and Customer with UW. Which one?

Now then, how many times more were you paying for your services than me. If I recall it was even more than the more than the more than 3 times cardew pays compared to what I pay.

Do you include the many UW discounts in your perception that UW are expensive or do you selectively ignore them like Cardew and Quentin?

Are you going to try to tell me now that you know more than me about UW and the rest of the marketplace.

Quentin

vinnyph wrote: »

Do you include the many UW discounts in your perception that UW are expensive or do you selectively ignore them like Cardew and Quentin?

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You must have missed the dismissive posts concerning the "discounts".

To get any discount you must first buy the expensive energy, then act as a busy fool using the risky cashback card at UW's choice of retailer.

Your members (ie the friends and relatives of the reps) could save lots of money by buying their energy elsewhere.

And then shopping wherever they want to, and getting any discounts/card cashback etc for themselves (not simply taken by UW in part payment for the expensive energy)

vinnyph

Quentin wrote: »

I haven't "stalked" anyone at all! (Nor "broken into internet distributor websites" - what do you mean by that?). Are you suggesting I am a hacker?

I see you have no comment at all regarding your disgraceful blasphemy which you posted here!

You got into the networkerplus website that is only for UW Distributors to get access to the forum so you could find something to say about Distributors. The thing you regularly mention about keggs was on that site. But of course you will try to deny that now. This has been brought up a long time ago.

I have learned to ignore your accusations because it's just your methodology to undermine. You try it with all UW Distributors and even customers. Yet when you are shown up you just play the innocent.

Now where is that cashback card you were saying about earlier, you know the one that gives similar cashback to the UW Cashback Card.

Long Term UW Customer and Distributor.

kippen_noedel

vinnyph wrote: »

What are you going to do then start making attacks against me and Christianity again then like you did before.

Hmm, I'm sure I didn't mention religion there, no, I've read it again, I didn't. & please remember it was YOU that 1st brought religion into this thread NOT ME & it wasn't me that wished you unborn highlighting an unholy lack of Christianity in yourself.

& of course as usual you say nothing about my real question

Can you justify the very high prices UW charge their customers for their gas and electricity ??

Cardew

vinnyph wrote: »

If I recall it was even more than the more than the more than 3 times cardew pays compared to what I pay.

This of course is fantasy.

On my high consumption UW would charge £818 a year more than I pay BG on my fixed tariff. That is 59.23% more.

When my fixed tariff ends in just over 2 months time, the cheapest tariff available at the moment will be £621 cheaper than UW - a mere 39.35% cheaper.

Yet we have the stupid statements that he pays one third of the amount that I pay. Could that be that he uses about one sixth of the gas and electricity I use?

Carefully avoiding any discussion about UW prices we all note.

I am happy to discuss in detail prices but Vinny who "had built up a reputation for cutting through the rhetoric"? is not interested.

What a pity the Troll, who you all rely upon so much, has been 'retired'!

vinnyph

Quentin wrote: »

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You must have missed the dismissive posts concerning the "discounts".

To get any discount you must first buy the expensive energy, then act as a busy fool using the risky cashback card at UW's choice of retailer.

Your members (ie the friends and relatives of the reps) could save lots of money by buying their energy elsewhere.

And then shopping wherever they want to, and getting any discounts/card cashback etc for themselves (not simply taken by UW in part payment for the expensive energy)

Lets see, what are your usual other things you usually claim. The risky cashback card. Actually I just use the cashback card in shops and pay like I do with other cards and I top it up every few weeks. So what is complicated about that then

Cheaper energy elsewhere. Both you and Cardew have said on other threads that the internet only deals with other companies are often not as good as they first seem. You have to read the small print, early minimum contract termination fees, price can change without warning or be put back onto standard rates for any reason. Yet on here you sing those companies praises. Of course you ignore the UWDC discounts in this evaluation.

There are a number of discounts including the member discounts, cashback card, Customer Discount Plan, unlimited telephone calls at no extra cost, £100 energy discount for a new customer (I don't mention than until after they have decided to become a customer as it is a one off). The express day is coming soon so there will likely be a whole bunch of new additions. The event in September 2009 was not for introduction of new services, discounts etc. It has been 18 months since the last express day so there are a number of new things coming.

I would be interested to see these other discount cashback cards that you claim but have never provided a link to them. I get hundreds back every year with my own UWDC cashback card. I have seen one or two credit cards that have given a 2% cashback for the first 3 months or 6 months but nothing more than that. Be interested if there was something better as I have tried looking many times before. Never found anything that comes near the 5% cashback that continues to be paid.

Long Term UW Customer and Distributor.

kippen_noedel

Cardew wrote: »

This of course is fantasy.

Yes, fantasy, but he has a proven affinity for fantasy so don't be too shocked.

check out his advice to me here, my post

kippen_noedel wrote: »

I've just carried out a comparison on uSwitch for my own usage, swapping to UW Dual Fuel High User Option would cost me an extra £1908.09 more than the current cheapest tariff available.

his advice

vinnyph wrote: »

If you were willing to spend more than about £580 on the cashback card in the many partner stores per year then it would mean you would be in profit because this covers the cost of running the card and the UWDC membership fee.

and this guy gives advice to people, it's a scary thought, :eek:

Cardew

kippen_noedel wrote: »

and this guy gives advice to people, it's a scary thought, :eek:

Forget about gas and electricity. If you want 'scary' this man was allegedly a Ministry of Defence projects manager!!

Come on Vinny, UW prices please - don't scare us any more!

vinnyph

Cardew wrote: »

This of course is fantasy.

On my high consumption UW would charge £818 a year more than I pay BG on my fixed tariff. That is 59.23% more.

When my fixed tariff ends in just over 2 months time, the cheapest tariff available at the moment will be £621 cheaper than UW - a mere 39.35% cheaper.

Yet we have the stupid statements that he pays one third of the amount that I pay. Could that be that he uses about one sixth of the gas and electricity I use?

Carefully avoiding any discussion about UW prices we all note.

I am happy to discuss in detail prices but Vinny who "had built up a reputation for cutting through the rhetoric"? is not interested.

What a pity the Troll, who you all rely upon so much, has been 'retired'!

I realise the tariff you are on and it ending in april 2010. It is a discounted rate. Be interesting to find out how many people in BG are actually on that tariff and how many are just paying standard rates.

I recall you pay around £2000 a year. I pay around £600 including my UWDC Discounts. I posted it in much detail a few months ago. If I moved just my energy elsewhere I would pay £240 more because of the discounts. If I moved everything away from UWDC I would pay many hundreds more again. My usage is less but the house is still quite large. It is just very efficient and I use economy 7 for heating. You merely do not include the UWDC discounts but choose to include the discounts from other companies in comparison.

Something that has often been quoted before is that UW is not for everyone but I have never once suggested it. You must agree that it is very audacious to suggest that I would save by moving my energy elsewhere. For that matter you suggest that no-one benefits from UW. I just find people that it does benefit. I don't persuade but just show them what UWDC does and let them evaluate it for themselves. Something that keeps me doing it is that it keeps getting better as well. Be interesting what other services, benefits and discounts will be added in april at the express day.

Look when UWDC has 2,000,000 services you will be miffed. For every person you try to persuade to go elsewhere there are hundreds per day choosing UWDC. You are wasting your time with this unwarranted attack. UWDC continues to keep growing anyway. Many of those people you persuade will at some time become a UWDC customer anyway in the future. I am not bothered either way, it's up to the person afterall. I just wonder why you are so worried about steering people away from UWDC yet the customers seem happy with what they have got.

Long Term UW Customer and Distributor.