Parking Eye Parking Charge Notice

Coupon-mad

We are very proactive on this forum and on pepipoo forum, trying to get something done about it. Meanwhile just ignore your fake PCN and play snap with the threatograms you will receive.

Like all the other posters on this board, you have a fake PCN.

When dealing with "tickets" from private parking companies (PPCs) our advice for tickets received up until the end of September is to ignore them as long as it's your car (not a company, hire or lease car). The registered keeper will just receive the usual threatograms and can play a nice game of snap with them.

Tick off the threatening letters here.

Watchdog clip with expert Solicitor's opinion here.

Barrister's opinion here.

Show your friends & family the links and make sure the registered keeper is ready to play their game of snap!

navigator1952

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i note you say "until the end of september". what happens after that is the law changing?
i have just got a pcn from aldi
a) i shall bin it
b) aldi ahve lost my custom!!( and i have complained to them about using a parking eye.

ManxRed

The law is changing but not by much and it may only mean our advice changes slightly. Essentially these tickets will remain unenforceable.

AggravatedAmy

Hi,

Like many people I've been caught out at St Peter's Retail Park, again it was completely unintentional.

I didn't even see that it *was* pay and display until after I had come out of the shops. However, I do remember having a quick read of the conditions and deciding that I hadn't overstayed my welcome as I'd actually bought something in the shops.

Of course, clearly I hadn't read it properly as I now have a 'parking charge' notice from parking eye. I know that there is already a lot on these forums about private parking notices and parking eye, but I had a couple of questions I was wondering if anyone would be able to answer:

1. Does anyone know the actual rules for that car park? I don't live close enough to Mansfield that I can actually check and I can't find the information anywhere online. I will try calling Mansfield council and British Land, the landowners, but in the meantime, does anyone know off-hand?

2. According to ParkingEye, under new rules, they don't need the name of the driver to issue a fine, they will just issue it to the registered keeper (ie me) so one of the key arguments that I've found on these forums doesn't hold up. Could anyone point me to any genuine legal advice regarding fines on private land? I've seen lots of people say that they are unenforcable but I didn't know if there was a specific legal source (ie a barrister, solicitor, etc) stating this).

I know that I could just completely ignore this and it will probably go away, but I'm the kind of person that will get really stressed out with each letter they send so I'd rather either have a 'genuine' appeal (ie play by their rules) or have something solid to back me up.

Thanks a lot for your help

The_Slithy_Tove

AggravatedAmy wrote: »

According to ParkingEye, under new rules, they don't need the name of the driver to issue a fine, they will just issue it to the registered keeper (ie me)

For a start, IT'S NOT A FINE.
Do PE really say this? If they do, it's against the rules. If you have a post 1st October notice from PE, it would be interesting to see it.

The "new rules" do not set out a legal framework for parking charges. They are as unenforceable now as they ever were.

AggravatedAmy wrote: »

Could anyone point me to any genuine legal advice regarding fines on private land?

That's easy. A private company CANNOT ISSUE A FINE. IT'S NOT A FINE. Everything you see comes under contract law.

AggravatedAmy wrote: »

but I'm the kind of person that will get really stressed out with each letter they send

Why? You seem to have read enough to know it's all a scam. Do you get stressed out by email scams? This is no different.

AggravatedAmy wrote: »

so I'd rather either have a 'genuine' appeal (ie play by their rules) or have something solid to back me up.

You must be joking. They make up their own "rules" to suit themselves. Why on earth would you want to play their game when their made-up rules are completely stacked against you. The only rules you need to observe are what the law says, and it says they cannot issue a punative charge on you. All you owe them is the upaid P&D fee.

trisontana

For a start it's not a "fine" secondly they can "pursue" the RK but it doesn't mean they have to pay. Even the BPA states that:-


Dear AOS Colleague

It has been drawn to our attention that there is much public concern about some operators who continue to indicate on signage, parking charge notices and similar correspondence that the keeper is liable for the payment of parking charges due as a result of a breach of contract. This is not the legal situation now nor will it be after 1 October 2012.

bazster

Here's a solicitor's advice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

The October law change makes no difference. It just means that you get to ignore them as the registered keeper instead of ignoring them as the driver.

Remember, literally hundreds of thousands of these meaningless bits of paper get ignored every year without any adverse consequences. Yours is no different.

kerina

I have recently had a parking ticket from parking eye. I have read about what has been said about them in the past, but i contacted consumer rights. They say I should pay the money as they can take me to court.
I have emailed the appeals at parking eye and wait in hope.
I have never used one of there car parks before. By the time I realised that I had to put in my registration number (I had to write it on my arm as I can never remember it) found a pen etc....
time was ticking by...... I paid for 30 minutes. Parking eye letter says 33 minutes..... i cant find the parking ticket that i bought.....surely the 3 minutes was the time i was looking for my pen etc......???

trisontana

Do you mean Citizens Advice? If so, then they are wrong. Just ignore parking eye they won't take you to court.

ManxRed

I can only say that the advice from Consumer Rights is absolutely appalling.

Under breaches of contract, the landowner is entitled to pursue their actual losses only. For 3 minutes overstay in a P&D car park, you legally owe the landowner (NOT Parking Eye, the LANDOWNER) the cost of a P&D to cover the additional three minutes.

I'm guessing this isn't the £90 or whatever it is that they are now asking you for.

There isn't a law in the land that says you have to pay this.

Parking Eye COULD take you to court (at the end of the day, anyone can take anyone else to court if they fancy a day out), but they would lose very very badly, and what's more they know it.