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Likely outcome of refusal to supply cv to working links
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A friend of mine has been sent by the jobcentre to the training organisation Working Links.
He is refusing to supply a cv to working links which they can store physically and electronically which can then be shared with third parties. For his own reasons he does not want this information dissesminated thus reducing working links chances of securing him employment and thus their payment. I don't know if organisations like this are paid incrementally before employment is gained.
He claims that under data protection laws he doesn't have to. The 'advisor' at working links has stated that she will contact the job centre at this refusal to comply, possibly leading to benefit sanctions.
Attending Working Links is mandatory but will the refusal to supply this information possibly breach the job seekers rules of 'actively seeking work.'
What is the likely outcome of this scenario?
He is refusing to supply a cv to working links which they can store physically and electronically which can then be shared with third parties. For his own reasons he does not want this information dissesminated thus reducing working links chances of securing him employment and thus their payment. I don't know if organisations like this are paid incrementally before employment is gained.
He claims that under data protection laws he doesn't have to. The 'advisor' at working links has stated that she will contact the job centre at this refusal to comply, possibly leading to benefit sanctions.
Attending Working Links is mandatory but will the refusal to supply this information possibly breach the job seekers rules of 'actively seeking work.'
What is the likely outcome of this scenario?
As surely as night follows day capitalism will come crumbling down. On a mission to secure a just and ethical society.
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CVs are the standard way these days of showing a potential employer who you are with regards to them possibly employing you.
So I think the fact the company tasked to find your friend a job but unable to show any potential employers a CV would lead to benefit sanctions, and if it doesn't, it should.When your life is a mess, stop and think what you are doing before bringing more kids into it, it's not fair on them.
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Sounds like he isn't actually looking for a job.British Ex-pat in British Columbia!0
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There's no reason for them to keep a copy of his CV as long he's looking for work and can show this.A friend of mine has been sent by the jobcentre to the training organisation Working Links.
He is refusing to supply a cv to working links which they can store physically and electronically which can then be shared with third parties. For his own reasons he does want this information dissesminated thus reducing working links chances of securing him employment and thus their payment. I don't know if organisations like this are paid incrementally before employment is gained.
He claims that under data protection laws he doesn't have to. The 'advisor' at working links has stated that she will contact the job centre at this refusal to comply possibly leading to benefit sanctions.
Attending Working Links is mandatory but will the refusal to supply this information possibly breach the job seekers rules of 'actively seeking work.'
What is the likely outcome of this scenario?
Look at this website:
Consent and Welfare to Work(fare) Programmes
Maybe he should just show them his CV to confirm he has one.
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There's no reason for them to keep a copy of his CV as long he's looking for work and can show this.
Look at this website:
Consent and Welfare to Work(fare) Programmes
Maybe he should just show them his CV to confirm he has one.
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Thanks for the link. We have looked at that website and he is following the advice as the basis of his stance.
Yes, and he will consent to showing them his cv but does not want it stored.As surely as night follows day capitalism will come crumbling down. On a mission to secure a just and ethical society.0 -
You're getting into a discussion about things that are not relevant.I have had a look at that link - thanks.
I am shocked that people are actually going that far in order to fustrate the government when all they are trying to do is help people back into work.
What is it with these people? Are they that happy being on benefits for the forseeable future?
Broken Britain! To damn right - it is knackered and bust with that sort of attitude!!!!!!
Data Protection - anyone would think that they are career criminals or maybe have been given a new identity under the witness protection scheme! Or maybe it is simply that they are too bone idle to look for a job, and shake and quiver at the thought that they be made to do a job!!0 -
CVs are the standard way these days of showing a potential employer who you are with regards to them possibly employing you.
So I think the fact the company tasked to find your friend a job but unable to show any potential employers a CV would lead to benefit sanctions, and if it doesn't, it should.
Are you suggesting that the law should be ignored with regards to benefit claimants?
If my understanding of the data protection act is correct then information cannot be passed to third parties without express consent.
Therefore in sanctioning a claimant the DWP would be at the very least going against the essence of that law. And I'm not aware of any conditionality within the laws of job seekers allowance which suggests otherwise.As surely as night follows day capitalism will come crumbling down. On a mission to secure a just and ethical society.0 -
Why not?
Surely this will help towards finding employment. It doesn't matter who gets paid what or when, what does matter that he can find any job and get back into the workplace.
He should be doing everything possible to that end.
I have my CV on many websites - I don't know where it ends up or who sells it or plays around with it. What matters is that a job comes out of it - I don't particularly care doing what, just a job is all I want.
By making it difficult for those empowered to help him is to me, a backwards step. Surely he wants a job?
Sanctions - with that sort of attitude - most definitely and for as long as he fails to co-operate with them. And if that refusal goes on beyond 1 month, the whole claim should be closed down until he does co-operate.
"Why not" isn't the issue!
I don't think "attitude" has any legal basis for sanctioning a claimant.As surely as night follows day capitalism will come crumbling down. On a mission to secure a just and ethical society.0 -
But obviously be prepared for them checking what he is doing and of course he will be able to show Working Links & if necessary the Jobcentre that he is looking for work, that he is willing & able to apply for vacancies found by Working Links.Thanks for the link. We have looked at that website and he is following the advice as the basis of his stance.
Yes, and he will consent to showing them his cv but does not want it stored.
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If my understanding of the data protection act is correct then information cannot be passed to third parties without express consent.
Now that is what is called severely limiting your job prospects. That takes every job agency out of the equation.
There again, maybe that is the intention - make it impossible for people to find you a job and you can take things nice & easy.
friend: I am applying for the job of xxx
employer: Please email your CV to look at.
friend: Sorry, can't do that. You may pass it on to somebody else. I can show you that I have one.
employer: Goodbye.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
But obviously be prepared for them checking what he is doing and of course he will be able to show Working Links & if necessary the Jobcentre that he is looking for work, thet he is willing & able to apply for vacancies found by Working Links.
He also will not answer the phone to them, supply an email address and is insisting that everything is done through the post.
He classes working links as a disreputable and useless organisation where one hand doesn't know what the other is doing. He claims that in the induction the 'speaker' threatened benefit sanctions at least 5 times in the first 5 minutes.As surely as night follows day capitalism will come crumbling down. On a mission to secure a just and ethical society.0
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