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Who's going to loose when DLA becomes PIP?

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  • uponahill
    uponahill Posts: 318 Forumite
    schrodie wrote: »
    Thus lumbering the taxpayer with an ever increasing bill for the appeals and if the ESA appeals is anything to go by 40% of PIP appeals may end up successful.

    I very much doubt it. Plans will have already have been put in place by the government to stop that from happening. They will have learned from the ESA situation.

    It would be a political disaster for PIP to follow what happened with ESA.

    You just wait and see!!
  • uponahill
    uponahill Posts: 318 Forumite
    schrodie wrote: »
    A few Motability advisers in these car dealerships may also find themselves going onto part time working or having to diversify!!

    There is too much capacity in the car industry. It needs to be trimmed and PIP will give them the reason for doing it.

    Just watch what is going to happen with Vauxhall in this country in about 3 months!!!
  • schrodie
    schrodie Posts: 8,410 Forumite
    uponahill wrote: »
    I very much doubt it. Plans will have already have been put in place by the government to stop that from happening. They will have learned from the ESA situation.

    It would be a political disaster for PIP to follow what happened with ESA.

    You just wait and see!!

    What plans?
  • L6MCT
    L6MCT Posts: 71 Forumite
    uponahill wrote: »
    Enhanced rate = 12+ points
    low rate = 11 points or under

    Standard Rate will require claimants to score a minimum of 8 points.
  • JS477
    JS477 Posts: 1,968 Forumite
    uponahill wrote: »
    Yep it is, but getting the 12+ points is going to be darn more difficult.

    You will have to be unable to walk and not able to wheel yourself in the wheelchair.

    In other words only those that need someone to push or for them to need an electric one.

    AND they will have to prove that to be the case with medical evidence.

    Just being unable to walk will not count any longer!


    Cannot move up to 50 metres without using a wheelchair propelled by the claimant =12 points so you get the enhanced rate. It's 15 if you can't propell it yourself.
    uponahill wrote: »
    I very much doubt it. Plans will have already have been put in place by the government to stop that from happening. They will have learned from the ESA situation.

    It would be a political disaster for PIP to follow what happened with ESA.

    You just wait and see!!

    There are measures contained within the WRB currently awaiting Royal Assent to allow the DWP to delay as long as necessary any appeal an ESA "customers" wish to lodge.
  • Anubis_2
    Anubis_2 Posts: 4,077 Forumite
    Chrissiew wrote: »
    I understand people are worried about DLA/PIP, as I am, but all these posts are just making people more and more anxious and drawing conclusions of what they will or wont get when its phased in

    Its not worth the worry and making yourself ill over untill its your turn to be assessed, that may not happen to some of you for a year or two, maybe longer and who knows what could happen in the meantime, you could win millions of pounds and not need the benefit! There are so many what ifs and do I qualify with my condition, and the only people who can truly tell you that are those who will assess you.

    Yes you can read up on the new benefit, but you can also read up on ESA and the descriptors but how many believe they qualify for the certain groups of that benefit and dont get in? You just never know and some with certain illnessess are making themselves worse with all the worry.

    I agree with this post 1000 percent. There is an old saying, if you worry you die, if you don't worry you die, so there is litte achieved by worrying. Take it as it comes is the better thing to do, and some people, looking at the descriptors so far, will actually be better off as it does seem a fairer way.
    How people treat you becomes their karma; how you react becomes yours.
  • mwd
    mwd Posts: 36 Forumite
    uponahill wrote: »
    I very much doubt it. Plans will have already have been put in place by the government to stop that from happening. They will have learned from the ESA situation.

    It would be a political disaster for PIP to follow what happened with ESA.

    You just wait and see!!

    So the right to appeal is being removed is it where is your proof of this.
  • Darlyd
    Darlyd Posts: 1,337 Forumite
    Can someone help me please.

    I have been getting MR care and LM DLA for 9 years indef, never been called in for anything. I also work part time, will I lose my DLA/PIP?
  • moose1982
    moose1982 Posts: 258 Forumite
    darlyd wrote: »
    Can someone help me please.

    I have been getting MR care and LM DLA for 9 years indef, never been called in for anything. I also work part time, will I lose my DLA/PIP?

    No-one can say just on that, sorry. Everyone is being looked at and reviewed though over the next 6 (I think that's the target) years.
  • hi im basically on DLA at the moment although i have received a form to fill in from the DLA recently because its that time of year where they need to review me anyway my situation as got worse n im terrified of getting my partner to fill the form in due to the DLA clamping down on people but when PIP comes into action so many people r worrying its disgusting why cant the government see what they r doing
    my situation is i have RSD also known as CRPS doctors hospitals specialists have all tried different medications on me and not that many work im terrified for when PIP does actually come into force because RSD/CRPS is not understood by heck of alot of people its a living nightmare imagine being wrapped up with barbed wire and being constantly burnt n stabbed in the hand wrist arm n shoulder that me 24 hours a day 7 days a week its horrible
    anyway just thought i would write a quick msg i dont understand the new PIP either but
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