fake county court claim?????

fedupowner

Hi everyone,
after 2 letters of Parking contravention enforcement notice(from 6 months ago) today i v received a letter saying that Civil enforcement ltd have instucted a solicitor to draft a Particulars of claim wich they intend to submit to Northampton county cort in a week time.
It this a legal letter or just a scare letter like the previous one?
what should i do?
keep ignoring as the letter as being sent to me by normal post or pay now the offered reduced price of 70£?
If it does go to court can i argue the fact that i never recieved any corrispondence from them?
help,i mgetting stressed !!!
can they still send me letters after 6 months?? i do not even remember if i was the driver at the time of contravention.
thanks for any reply

give_them_FA

If you read other threads you will find that this is all complete bullsh*t. A standard part of their scare-you-into-paying routine. The reason they have to scare you into paying is because they have no chance whatever of really issuing anything in court.

For a kick-off, to even think about it, they would have to prove who the driver was, as they are the only one they could sue- NOT the owner or keeper.

And it's obvious from your post they don't know who that was.

Which is the reason they are stuck with scare tactics. If they really could go to court, they would have done it by now, don't you think?

The threats will rise to a crescendo, as will the amount of money demanded. Then, suddenly, it will dawn on them you are NOT one of the mugs, they've done their worst and you have ignored them, and they will cut their losses and quit.

And you will never hear from them again. That's guaranteed. I have given the V-sign to over 80 of these idiots and have never paid out one penny over the years..

notts_phil

It's a common trick by them. They send unstamped court papers to put the frighteners on you.

Ignore.

give_them_FA

And once you have got the full set of letters, if you want to know how to make a bit of money out of them... come back!

fedupowner

give_them_FA wrote: »

If you read other threads you will find that this is all complete bullsh*t. A standard part of their scare-you-into-paying routine. The reason they have to scare you into paying is because they have no chance whatever of really issuing anything in court.

For a kick-off, to even think about it, they would have to prove who the driver was, as they are the only one they could sue- NOT the owner or keeper.

And it's obvious from your post they don't know who that was.

Which is the reason they are stuck with scare tactics. If they really could go to court, they would have done it by now, don't you think?

The threats will rise to a crescendo, as will the amount of money demanded. Then, suddenly, it will dawn on them you are NOT one of the mugs, they've done their worst and you have ignored them, and they will cut their losses and quit.

And you will never hear from them again. That's guaranteed. I have given the V-sign to over 80 of these idiots and have never paid out one penny over the years..

Thank you for your comment,i will keep ignoring them and hopefully they will stop scaring me at some point.
In the first letter they asked me if i wanted a photografic proof (for 10£ ) i for obvius reson never reply but it is possible that they have a picture of me leaving the car???
Shall i tell them i wasnt the driver or never start corrispondence with them ?
A court order required stamp and a bit more information i guess .
This one just seems a copy printed out the internet but i never recieved a court order in my life so i dont know how the real one should look like .
Surely the court order if is a genuine one will required a signature on arrival or not???
thanks again

give_them_FA

What I need you to understand, FUO, is that this ENTIRE MATTER is a scam. There is NO LEGAL BASIS for their claims against you. That is why it cannot be enforced. None of us care if they have a photo, nor indeed even if they had a film crew making a full length movie of your entire stay there!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

You DO Not tell them anything. These people have no more authority than you or I do. If I were to send you a letter demanding money, you would think, "not likely, mate".... wouldn't you? The fact that they IMPERSONATE authority does not GIVE them authority. They are FRAUDS.

You might as well send money to one of those Nigerians who sends you an e mail asking you to help him get a "fund" of $10 million out of the country... you wouldn't fall for that, so why fall for this?

IGNORE them, mate. They will simply go away!

The only "Court papers" you need to take notice of are ones bearing the genuine seal of a County Court. If you receive those, come back on here and tell us, and we will show you how to kick their butts. But in the meantime buy a lottery ticket every week since your six numbers are far more likely to turn up than genuine court papers from these crooks.

(Add: By "seal" I mean a circular stamp in the area marked to receive the seal. In the old days it used to be done with wax hence the name! It will also have a Case Number at the top. If in doubt you should ring the Court and ask if it's genuine. But by that time, it won't be a worry as you will be a millionaire from winning the lottery.)

muckybutt

Just to add to FA's post...if they do send unstamped court papers then you would be well within your right to counter sue them for harassment.

give_them_FA

Never mind "counter" sue, MB, it's simply "sue", as there's nothing they can touch our friend for!

TIMBO20

muckybutt wrote: »

Just to add to FA's post...if they do send unstamped court papers then you would be well within your right to counter sue them for harassment.

Hello everyone , I yesterday received a Northampton County Court Form from UKCPS, it has a circular stamp on it but it looks part of the same print as the form is printed on ,if you know what I mean, there is also a telephone no. purporting to be a Northampton County Court No. but it is different from the number I obtain by Googling ??

is this a fake letter as well ??
any help received gratefully as I have received the full set of letters from UKCPS and i am getting a bit fed up with it all...Needless to say I have ignored all previous letters and have made no contact whatsoever with these people ?

peter_the_piper

Take the number (there should be a number on it) phone Northampton Court tomorrow (By google not their number)and see if its real. Court stamp should not be just printed on.
In the unlikely event its real come back. If its not real contact give them FA for details on how to get your own back. Let us know how you get on.

notts_phil

TIMBO20 wrote: »

Hello everyone , I yesterday received a Northampton County Court Form from UKCPS, it has a circular stamp on it but it looks part of the same print as the form is printed on ,if you know what I mean, there is also a telephone no. purporting to be a Northampton County Court No. but it is different from the number I obtain by Googling ??

is this a fake letter as well ??
any help received gratefully as I have received the full set of letters from UKCPS and i am getting a bit fed up with it all...Needless to say I have ignored all previous letters and have made no contact whatsoever with these people ?

Ok this could or could not be genuine

Is the a court claim number on it?

If its genuine people on here such as alexis/coupon-mad/give them fa will enjoy help you to compile a good defence because UKCPS is run by a clown the by the name of peter!!!

So Two things:

Scan up the document removing personal details

Secondly dont listen to people who send private messages as peter from ukcps is slippery as a snake! and pretends to help you where in fact he is just getting details to help himself

Finally if it is genuine register on pepipoo.com then post up your details there and get a defence sorted

If as above it is genuine you need to acknowledge the claim and ask for the extra 14 days.

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Ps Peter Haswell has been defeated many times in court and has on more then one occasion been made to look stupid in court, often walking out fuming

People on here or pepipoo will more be more then happy to help. All people ask is that if they give good advice is that you take it and follow each step given