There are plenty of jobs out there!

gettingready

My daughter is doing third year of Law & Criminology - she works in an office of a warehouse.

A friend of hers who graduated last year (same degree) - works in a call centre, can not find any other job.

uponahill

adindas wrote: »

This is because many youngsters when they enter university they have been told to study what they like. Not to take a degree that allow them to easily find the job in the future when they finish uni...

They end up study which is easy to pass and get degree. Not many want to study Engineering, Science, Dentistry, Medicine as they need to put too much efforts.

Finishing mickey mouse degree they end up working in the low skill job which eventually does not need degree as they will not be able to work , there are enough job in those areas ...

In my opinion when parent's give advice to their teens they need to encourage them to take degree which are likely to allow them the easily find the job in the future, not what they the teen like to do.

They certainly do and just look at the mess this country is in.

What chance has this country got when we spend millions on education to give them degrees in 'X Factor - the way to win'

Thank God I'm too bloody old to care.

uponahill

gettingready wrote: »

My daughter is doing third year of Law & Criminology - she works in an office of a warehouse.

A friend of hers who graduated last year (same degree) - works in a call centre, can not find any other job.

And what employer would be looking for those talents?

What opportunities are there available?

Zilch! She might as well be studying Botany

Now if she was studying medicine, law, accountancy or even applied mechanical engineering she would be guaranteed a future!

dandelionclock30

No, theres plenty of graduates with law degrees that are out of work.
A person has to have a high level of ability to do medicine or engineering, not just anyone can do these.
Law and Criminology-could help her get into Probation, working with offenders, Youth Justice etc. She would have to get some hands on experience first through voluntary work, then apply for support worker roles.

gettingready

My daughter is still at Uni, her course is a full time course - the current job is not connected to what she wants to do (Police/Probation/etc) but temporary means to makes ends meet while studying. She took it as they are flexible with her hours, she can attend her lectures and still work full time.

Her friend can not find anything other than a call centre/sales jobs.

Uponahill - your comment is tottaly erm..... out of place (to put it nicely).

Derivative

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

A person has to have a high level of ability to do medicine or engineering, not just anyone can do these.

If you believe that. I like to think of it as 'hard work'. Some are more naturally talented than others, but practice makes perfect.

And yes, not just anyone should be going to University. Why waste tens of thousands of pounds on a degree no employer will value?

ILW

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

No, theres plenty of graduates with law degrees that are out of work.
A person has to have a high level of ability to do medicine or engineering, not just anyone can do these.
Law and Criminology-could help her get into Probation, working with offenders, Youth Justice etc. She would have to get some hands on experience first through voluntary work, then apply for support worker roles.

University used to be for people with a high level of ability. It never used to be about coming up with courses so that everyone could have a degree.

gettingready

Derivative wrote: »

If you believe that. I like to think of it as 'hard work'. Some are more naturally talented than others, but practice makes perfect.

I rather not come across a doctor who is less naturally talented but wants to keep practicing...

silkyuk9

LisaB85 wrote: »

Are you deliberately being stupid?

Work prog- those who don't appear to do enough to look for work are placed at Tesco (who are cutting paid hours of their staff) to work for 2 weeks for their benefit.

When you sign on you are required to provide evidence of job searches, if not deemed to have done enough claimant can be monitored closely, sent for training or even sanctioned.

On a jobseekers agreement a requirement is to look for work, visit employers and apply for jobs therefore 'asking for an interview'

So you would just do everything that is being done already, well done.

Rubbish

so why has my useless brother been unemployed since he left school at 16, now 39. Never had a job and doesnt want one. Never has had to supply evidence as far as im aware as hes never out of bed during the day, stays up all night playing ps3 games on his 40 inch flat screen. total rubbish about supplying evidence.

Derivative

gettingready wrote: »

I rather not come across a doctor who is less naturally talented but wants to keep practicing...

I think you've misinterpreted my post.

My point is that if one does not have 'a certain level of ability' to study medicine or engineering at University, then practicing, putting the hours in with some textbooks and coming out with the grades required to get on the course is how it's done.

Yes, some people are naturally more talented, but it's not as if people are born with Newton's laws stuck in their brain. They get their head down in some books and get on with it.

What do you think education is all about? You begin with someone who knows nothing, and a decade and a half later (hopefully) an individual with a decent level of knowledge about the world pops out of the other end.

I don't have a 'certain level of ability' in medicine, probably because I've never formally studied it as it doesn't take my fancy. That doesn't mean I am fundamentally incapable of doing a degree course in it and becoming a doctor, I just didn't choose to.

Same with anyone. Specialization is what got us where we are today.