There are plenty of jobs out there!

Derivative

LadyMissA wrote: »

No £67.50 is a FACT. I have no savings and can ONLY claim £67.50. It is the ONLY benefit I can claim so do not say that benefit is too high when you assume we all get £100's!!! That's is first not true and not fair!

I suppose you're not likely to want to discuss your financial circumstances on an open forum so I'll leave it there, but I am unsure of any circumstance in which an unemployed individual with no savings would only be eligible to claim JSA and nothing else, unless they are being supported by others.

You seem to be making the claim that you pay for a roof, food, utility bills, council tax, NHS prescriptions, travel, and all of the rest of it, on £67.50/week or ~£3500 a year. Something doesn't add up.

The "we" attitude is very strange - you seem to be making the assumption that I claim nothing personally. As one example, I get NHS Low Income support, though reduced due to savings.

(Incidentally, it is extremely likely you are also eligible if you do as stated have no savings.)

silkyuk9

LadyMissA wrote: »

No £67.50 is a FACT. I have no savings and can ONLY claim £67.50. It is the ONLY benefit I can claim so do not say that benefit is too high when you assume we all get £100's!!! That's is first not true and not fair!

LadyMissA.

You may not get £100's per week but thousands and thousands do! They get this amount because they are clever, not stupid. These are the ones that know how to play the system.

Why don't I have 4 or 5 kids? why did we stick at 2? I'm going to tell you, because I cannot afford it thats why. If you are going to read a topic such as this be warned that there are going to be debates and answers we all do not agree with.

I'll tell you what p***** me off shall I. I and my wife have worked to feed cloth our kids so they grow up to hopefully follow our shadows. Now, when my daughter left school she could not go to college, do you know why? becaus ewe could not afford it! But some of her 'friends' were allowed to go to college, do you know why? It was all free for them. Their parents were on as much as us. We bring home around £23,000 per year both myself and my wife works. However there are families on more than this and can get free education fees free buses which would have cost me £300 per year. Who is the fools here? Why should my daughter miss out on education because we cant afford it when we work our !!!!!! off, yet families who do nothing who get more than us can send their kids to further education colleges for nothing.

LadymissA, I ask you, is that right?

LisaB85

Derivative wrote: »

I am unsure of any circumstance in which an unemployed individual with no savings would only be eligible to claim JSA and nothing else, unless they are being supported by others.

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If you're single, no dependents or disability you will only get JSA of £67.50 a week of course HB and CTB to pay rent but it is reality there are a lot of circumstances where a person will only get JSA.

uponahill

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

The economics are that if there were 2.67 million jobs out there then we would not have 2.67 million out of work. Hence there must be less than that or employers would be screaming that they cannot find people to fill the jobs. As it is they are complaining that 300 people are applying for each one.

They are screaming!

There are not enough of the right type of employees together with the inability of some that can't even read or write properly despite having 11 years of paid for education.

You only have to look on some of the private employment agencies websites. They are crying out for qualified engineers, lawyers, accountants, scientists etc.

We have a mis match of abilities v employer requirements.

Hence the reason they are having to bring staff in from abroad.

LadyMissA

Derivative wrote: »

I suppose you're not likely to want to discuss your financial circumstances on an open forum so I'll leave it there, but I am unsure of any circumstance in which an unemployed individual with no savings would only be eligible to claim JSA and nothing else, unless they are being supported by others.

You seem to be making the claim that you pay for a roof, food, utility bills, council tax, NHS prescriptions, travel, and all of the rest of it, on £67.50/week or ~£3500 a year. Something doesn't add up.

The "we" attitude is very strange - you seem to be making the assumption that I claim nothing personally. As one example, I get NHS Low Income support, though reduced due to savings.

(Incidentally, it is extremely likely you are also eligible if you do as stated have no savings.)

' but I am unsure of any circumstance in which an unemployed individual with no savings would only be eligible to claim JSA and nothing else'

wow you got it, but I wouldn't say 'supported' as such, just all getting in to more and more debt
you seem to be making the assumtion that I don't live with family (my parents who are oaps) and therefore am not allowed to claim anything but £67.50 a week and yes for sure I have NO savings whatsoever. My mum is in debt due to this situation too - I live here rent free where I used to pay rent , buy extra food, contribute to the electricity key payments where now I sit in the cold as no cnetral heating and even the other day went to bed at 10pm as key run out!

gettingready

silkyuk9 wrote: »

Why don't I have 4 or 5 kids? why did we stick at 2? I'm going to tell you, because I cannot afford it thats why.

I only have one, she is curently 21, on third year of her degree AND working full time, renting a private flat with her b/f, both just above min wage.

What £^%££ me off is people who have never worked keeping on having more and more kids..... single mothers that keep on having more and more kids? Immaculate conception?

As I said, I was a single mother most my life, never claimed as single mother. held sometimes 2 jobs at a time to make ends meet and studied to bettr myself at the same time - very, very tiring and at a cost of not being with my daughter when she was young and having various childcare arrangements (live in au pair etc) but I was not claiming.

Right now - I am an unemployed professional. Please do not confuse with profesionally unemployed.

gettingready

uponahill wrote: »

They are screaming!

There are not enough of the right type of employees together with the inability of some that can't even read or write properly despite having 11 years of paid for education.

You only have to look on some of the private employment agencies websites. They are crying out for qualified engineers, lawyers, accountants, scientists etc.

We have a mis match of abilities v employer requirements.

Hence the reason they are having to bring staff in from abroad.

Exactly - take all the foreign doctors/nurses/midwives out of the hospitals and they will have to close down.

Foreigners are not taking "British" jobs - lots of people are not qualified to do the jobs those dreaded "foreigners or EE migrant workers" are doing so pls stop winging about "them taking our jobs".

They either do jobs that locals are not qualified to do or jobs that local refuse to do - for whatever reason, low wage, working conditions, locations etc etc

silkyuk9

gettingready wrote: »

I only have one, she is curently 21, on third year of her degree AND working full time, renting a private flat with her b/f, both just above min wage.

What £^%££ me off is people who have never worked keeping on having more and more kids..... single mothers that keep on having more and more kids? Immaculate conception?

As I said, I was a single mother most my life, never claimed as single mother. held sometimes 2 jobs at a time to make ends meet - very, very tiring and at a cost of not being with my daughter when she was young and having various childcare arrangements (live in au pair etc) but I was not claiming.

Right now - I am an unemployed professional. Please do not confuse with profesionally unemployed.

we've never claimed a penny, why? because we couldnt, sorry, we got family tax credit when my kids were young. My daughter is 19 and works full time for £2-60 per hour. As ive said she could not go to college as this was 20 miles away and could not afford the fees or transportation. She has worked in a few shops but only temp so now at 19 is doing an apprenticeship, luckily we do not take anything off her.

My wife and myself work full time in low paid professional jobs, im work now so shouldnt even be on here. We've struggled for 20 years to keep afloat, hopefully if things go according to plan we will be debt free by the end of next year not including morgage, thats not over until im 59.

Derivative

LisaB85 wrote: »

If you're single, no dependents or disability you will only get JSA of £67.50 a week of course HB and CTB to pay rent but it is reality there are a lot of circumstances where a person will only get JSA.

Thank you for the back up - my intent was to show that Jobseeker's is not the only benefit claimable.

It is a fallacy to claim one lives on £67.50 per week, and ignore the fact that housing and council tax is paid for. My housing isn't paid for. (my council tax, incidentally, is).

Look - I don't mind debating whether or not payments are enough. I would like to work on complete information though, and not selected tidbits that bolster one side's argument. It is unfair to simply state "I get 67.50, is that too much" when 67.50 is only one part of what your family gets.

(I could easily claim that, for example, my sister is unemployed and gets zero benefit payments. That's because she is supported by my mother, who gets HB and similar.)

LadyMissA

Derivative wrote: »

Thank you for the back up - my intent was to show that Jobseeker's is not the only benefit claimable.

It is a fallacy to claim one lives on £67.50 per week, and ignore the fact that housing and council tax is paid for. My housing isn't paid for. (my council tax, incidentally, is).

Look - I don't mind debating whether or not payments are enough. I would like to work on complete information though, and not selected tidbits that bolster one side's argument. It is unfair to simply state "I get 67.50, is that too much" when 67.50 is only one part of what your family gets.

(I could easily claim that, for example, my sister is unemployed and gets zero benefit payments. That's because she is supported by my mother, who gets HB and similar.)

I have asked you why benefits are too much and you assume we are all getting £100's when it is not the case and people should know that but they don't and they assume what you have.

I have to pay for everything on that, including my net and phone in order to get a job and everything else I need. I have made loads of cuts back & buy things I would have never dreamt of using when I was working.