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LadyMissA

LisaB85 wrote: »

If you're single, no dependents or disability you will only get JSA of £67.50 a week of course HB and CTB to pay rent but it is reality there are a lot of circumstances where a person will only get JSA.

If you live with family and were once paying rent etc you get no housing benefit etc just JSA @ 67.50

silkyuk9

LadyMissA wrote: »

I have asked you why benefits are too much and you assume we are all getting £100's when it is not the case and people should know that but they don't and they assume what you have.

I have to pay for everything on that, including my net and phone in order to get a job and everything else I need. I have made loads of cuts back & buy things I would have never dreamt of using when I was working.

are you doing to reply to my questions ^^^^^^^ above?

LisaB85

Derivative wrote: »

Thank you for the back up - my intent was to show that Jobseeker's is not the only benefit claimable.

It is a fallacy to claim one lives on £67.50 per week, and ignore the fact that housing and council tax is paid for. My housing isn't paid for. (my council tax, incidentally, is).

Look - I don't mind debating whether or not payments are enough. I would like to work on complete information though, and not selected tidbits that bolster one side's argument. It is unfair to simply state "I get 67.50, is that too much" when 67.50 is only one part of what your family gets.

(I could easily claim that, for example, my sister is unemployed and gets zero benefit payments. That's because she is supported by my mother, who gets HB and similar.)

I didn't see anyone deny getting housing paid for though.

£67.50 to pay for electric/gas which is £10 at least a week, £5-£10 water and that is before broadband (needed to look for work) telephone (needed to phone employers) then food on top of that and travel costs to interviews/sign on.

Maybe broadband should be free to those unemployed as long as they can prove they are using it to look for work 5 days a week for a minimum amount of time. Not everyone has easy access to a library or internet cafes, if I was to use a library/internet cafe it would cost me £5.80 every time I wanted to use it and considering jobcentre states you need to search at least 3 times a week.

Phone boxes aren't the best place to call a prospective employer as notes may be needed and most are by noisy roads etc.

I'm OK I live at home but no I don't think JSA is enough for people who have to run a flat etc and look for work and those who are only entitled to JSA and HB/CTB because they haven't gone and bred should get a little help towards job search activities.

LadyMissA

silkyuk9 wrote: »

are you doing to reply to my questions ^^^^^^^ above?

Blimey, have a go at me why don't you. I believe if you have never worked you should be entitled to NOTHING and I have always worked and get only 67.50 where as you could have paid NI or Tax and get lots of things where I get hardly nothing.

Is that my fault? No!

I don't get your point? You are all assuming that ALL people who have lost their jobs are loving not having one and it's not true and that is what makes me really angry!!!

LadyMissA

LisaB85 wrote: »

I didn't see anyone deny getting housing paid for though.

I am, as I do not as I live with family as previously stated.

LadyMissA

From the Shelter uk website

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/housing_benefit_and_local_housing_allowance/housing_benefit_if_renting_from_a_family_member#0

No wonder people become homeless!!!

I live with other family members

If you are (or your partner is) renting a home from a close family member who shares all or part of the home with you, you won’t get housing benefit, even if you are paying them rent. This applies if you are renting from a:

• parent or step-parent
• father-in-law or mother-in-law
• child or step-child
• son-in-law or daughter-in-law
• brother or sister (including half-brothers and half-sisters)
• brother-in-law or sister-in-law
• partner of any of the above.

Derivative

LisaB85 wrote: »

I didn't see anyone deny getting housing paid for though.

The fact is that if you claim you are only entitled to £67.50 a week, by error of omission you are wrong.

It is not correct to state that all you get is £67.50 a week if your housing is paid for.
My housing isn't paid for, does that mean my income is £5000/year less? Of course it doesn't.

Perhaps in LadyMiss's case it is fair to say she is not being paid for housing, but the family is being paid for housing. It's a bit like, as earlier, saying that youngsters are eligible to no benefit - true, because their parents get the income in lieu of them.

No wonder people become homeless!!!

There are roughly 2000 homeless people in the UK. The vast majority of them are homeless due to mental illness or substance abuse, not lack of income. We should be doing all we can to help them yes, but it muddles the issue when people begin to pretend that all it takes is unemployment to push you onto the streets.

I don't hate benefit claimants and I don't think "they are all on hundreds of pounds a week", that's not the point. I think that it would help everyone if they were completely upfront about how they benefit from Government assistance, and didn't just use comfortable figures tailored to benefit their argument.

Though I don't personally get a lot besides low interest rates on my student loan, I recieve a large amount of support from the fact that my family are eligible to claim benefits and I can live under their roof. It's not accurate to say that all I get is a few quid from the NHS scheme and a couple hundred from non-commercial student loan rates.

drwho2011

LisaB85 wrote: »

I'm OK I live at home but no I don't think JSA is enough for people who have to run a flat etc and look for work and those who are only entitled to JSA and HB/CTB because they haven't gone and bred should get a little help towards job search activities.

£67.50 once housing costs and council tax are removed is liveable on if you don't have debts.

The problem people have is when they have credit commitments or contractual agreements and that is where they encounter trouble, if they haven't put anything aside in case of unemployment.

silkyuk9

LadyMissA wrote: »

Blimey, have a go at me why don't you. I believe if you have never worked you should be entitled to NOTHING and I have always worked and get only 67.50 where as you could have paid NI or Tax and get lots of things where I get hardly nothing.

Is that my fault? No!

I don't get your point? You are all assuming that ALL people who have lost their jobs are loving not having one and it's not true and that is what makes me really angry!!!

Ok time for me to help you and find a job, not my responsibility but hey im that kind of person. Follow me here and you will have a job possibly full time before the end of summer.

1. Go to your local hospital (I know a little about these places)
2, ask to speak to HR
3, inform HR that you are looking for a few hours each week voluntary, maybe on a ward serving tea, or helping the nurses, maybe talking to patients.
4,HR will give you a form to fill in
5, complete and TAKE back personally
F, 1 week later you will receive a phone call for an infomal chat
7, you will go through a personal check
8, 4 weeks later you will get some voluntary work.
9, if you show careness and quality the ward manager will notice
10, you ask ward manager for bank work
11, you get bank work
12, a part time job comes up
13, you apply
14, you get
15. Merry Christmas

LadyMissA

Derivative wrote: »

Perhaps in LadyMiss's case it is fair to say she is not being paid for housing, but the family is being paid for housing. It's a bit like, as earlier, saying that youngsters are eligible to no benefit - true, because their parents get the income in lieu of them.

What? Are you joking? My parents are being paid? Are you taking the P???