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chevalier

LIke you Piq I wouldn't have thought of the coffee as being problem. How embarassing. But also how a sad an indictment of UK society, that the job centre has guards, who are on the look out for this...

Mags_cat

chevalier wrote: »

LIke you Piq I wouldn't have thought of the coffee as being problem. How embarassing. But also how a sad an indictment of UK society, that the job centre has guards, who are on the look out for this...

This week, someone set himself alight with a flammable liquid outside a job centre after being inside and apparently threatening people and staff.

So I can see how their security might be a bit touchy, but surely no-one could suspect our Piq?

grannyx2

Sorry I didn't drop in earlier with the wine and then you could have been marched out in style. LOL

I can understand why you can't take it to the counter with you, as others have said it is a sign of our sorry world that some sick people would have had something other than coffee in there. However is it too much to ask that clients of the job centre get treated with a bit of respect and that you were told that you would have to leave to drink your drink before returning.

How embarrassing, especially as at the beginning of your relationship with the job centre we were all wondering what the person who was met by the police had done to be marched out first thing in the morning.

Now we know, they had their toast with them!

BFN Gx2 x

I'll drop in with some wine tonight x

bast

I think that there are means and ways of telling people that they are not allowed to bring hot drinks in. We tell them at the front desk, and politely ask them to either drink their coffee before interview, or just place it on the side and pick it up on the way out. I am suprised that you were dealt with like you were and rather unhappy at your treatment.
However a few spoil it for the majority, some sad git actually urinated in a coffee cup and threw it in the advisors face. Now even though that is unpleasant to say the least.... That could of been acid.. I will not not stop reading your diary, but what you witness occasionally ie.... aggression to staff we witness on a regular basis.. And I have to say the majority of staff are not rude, very helpful and try desperately to help people in sometimes very difficult circumstances. Common sense should always prevail and maybe a sign up at the front of the jobcentre should be put up... I will suggest this as a national thing. I do get fed up on this board of people constantly knocking the jobcentres, of course mistakes are made, of course they should be rectified but the rudeness I read on these boards, make the people who are writing them no better. Obviously this is not you..... :A

grannyx2

bast wrote: »

Common sense should always prevail and maybe a sign up at the front of the jobcentre should be put up... I will suggest this as a national thing.

That is a really good idea. It really is awful the things JCP staff have to put up with. I worked in the social fund section for a while and we fought really hard to keep our screens as we often had things thrown at us when we had to tell people we could not lend them money as they'd lost their wallet/purse for the 3rd time in 6 months. Sometimes the people were genuinely desperate and we certainly did not delight in telling them no, but there was only a certain amount of money to go around. However I always tried to tell them in a way I'd want to be told as my mantra has always been, "There for the grace of G go I"

We live in a very sorry society when people cannot be treated with respect and I definitely feel you could have been handled, (or rather not manhandled) better Piq

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missrlr

Oh Piq, in some respects that is priceless but I will continue subscribing in case you chase me up with a plastic stirring spatula!

I would have told the security numpty to get his paws off me how very dare they man handle anyone? Also so glad to see they were on the ball and clearly doing their job properly to prevent you from getting into the building with such a dangerous object in the first place!

Whilst I do understand there are some less desirable members of the society we inhabit there are ways to achieve required compliance and shoving someone out of the door would NOT be one of those. Perhaps you should suggest a good job would be marketing the requirements of individuals entering the premises so it is clearly understood?

That aside I hope Pr3t is all going well and Captain is enjoying himself. Doglet is in puppy heaven here - two nights in a row being allowed to sleep on our bed! He now of course asleep on his own bed - the hour awake and watching us unpack the car was too much for a small dog, far too tiring and now he is back to sleep!

bast

"There for the grace of G go I"

absolutely Granny you are so right....My mantra exactly... also I am better than no-one, but no-one is better than me....:)

Please do report how you were treated.. The security guards are not part of the DWP they are now I think group 4 security... Our security guards in our office are excellent but obviously I cannot speak for all jobcentres. However if it were me I would inform the jobcentre manager and put in a formal complaint.

Piquant_2

Igamogam wrote: »

well a hot coffee thrown in somebodies face may well be seen as dangerous and then there is always the possibility that some sick person may well be carrying something else in that cup that is intended to cause harm. I have friends and family who work for DWP and having heard the horror stories from their side of the fence as it where, then I can understand why you have been escorted out. Unfortunately it is the behaviour of a minority that dictates how we are treated sometimes. Too early for a soapbox so I will get off and retreat to lurking:o

Soapboxes are very useful things if full of soap powder :rotfl:washing clothes is a very expensive chore these days. There's no need to lurk, having thought about it, I can see where the DWP is coming from. I think I was just a tiny bit upset at being manhandled [touched] by the security guard without much of an explanation. I am, after-all a fairly nondescript middle-aged lady. It was the job centre receptionist that explained things to me. I did comment a sign outside might be nice and save such an embarrassing situation!

Promise I've never hit anyone in my life, I confess to having thrown something at someone, but that was when playing rounders and the ball went the wrong way....I'm absolutely rubbish with anything that involves any sort of bat combined with a ball :rotfl:

Come out from lurking....


Piq

Piquant_2

gallygirl wrote: »

Would like to unsubscribe but scared you may track me down and attack me with a sugar sachet or something .

I just might! and you won't know, until it's too late whether you'll be lambasted with brown or white sugar :eek:

NewLeaf wrote: »

holy crap. I am speechless. honestly I don't know what to say. Kep your chin up.

Ps My OH kills slugs, so I wont be unsubscribing as that seems to be more of an offense than drinking coffee

...not necessarily in this mad world!

NewLeaf wrote: »

PS. I wonder if it was a frappucino would it have illicted the same repsonse? Is it only on coffee? If so I think coffee might have a case for discrimintaion

....hmmm :rotfl::rotfl:I'm not prepared to find out! I'm going to lay low for a while in case I'm on the FBI's most wanted list.

Piquant_2

chevalier wrote: »

LIke you Piq I wouldn't have thought of the coffee as being problem. How embarassing. But also how a sad an indictment of UK society, that the job centre has guards, who are on the look out for this...

Horrendously embarrassing! As I've said, just a normal middle-aged lady. Yet I walked around B00ts and W*terstones without any trouble and they're less than 100 yards from the job centre. I'm sure I'm not the only person to frequent all the establishments.

Mags_cat wrote: »

This week, someone set himself alight with a flammable liquid outside a job centre after being inside and apparently threatening people and staff.

So I can see how their security might be a bit touchy, but surely no-one could suspect our Piq?

I've learned my lesson and won't be taking food and drink in with me ever again! I always take a huge bag containing my file of applications, the bag is big enough to carry a small automatic rifle....

grannyx2 wrote: »

...Now we know, they had their toast with them!

Well done and crispy, can do a lot of damage with that!