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  • silvercar
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  • PasturesNew
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    Done doozer!

    Just hectic atm, looking at houses (parent and i do not agree on best buy atm, but there is one outstanding one imo, its head an shoulders above the others, will hold value, could be used as a holiday let when parent is away, its outstandingly good.....and finished condition, plus, in favourite town, within walking distance of amenities. The catch...only one bed, (but a reception room wpthat would take a sofa bed) but as i said, they have left it too late to start another family and this is the sort of place to be happy to live alone or with a new partner in, its beautiful, easy and within budget. So why do they want the family house in a dark location in a scummy place, with no parking and needing loads of work done, that would be a pita to heat and live in?
    Simple answer: They've never been single before.

    :)

    For a lot of people it's "all about the status" of a 3-4 bed house too... so they might feel that they're moving beneath themselves :)

    I'd rather have £50k in the bank and 1-2 less bedrooms.
  • PasturesNew
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  • silvercar
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    Simple answer: They've never been single before.

    :)

    For a lot of people it's "all about the status" of a 3-4 bed house too... so they might feel that they're moving beneath themselves :)

    I'd rather have £50k in the bank and 1-2 less bedrooms.

    It is not just about the bedrooms. If you are going to spend a lot of time in your home, you want room to move around, room to entertain and room to spread out your possessions. So a 2 bed (always nice to have a guest room) may suffice, but downstairs you want a reasonable sized kitchen and a lounge and a dining room..at least. Plus a bit of a garden is nice, downstairs toilet is convenient.
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  • PasturesNew
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  • lostinrates
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    Simple answer: They've never been single before.

    :)

    For a lot of people it's "all about the status" of a 3-4 bed house too... so they might feel that they're moving beneath themselves :)

    I'd rather have £50k in the bank and 1-2 less bedrooms.

    Was a single mother in the sixties and seventies, so has been single, but not without a kid. Oh, but of course, was without a kid because left kid and worked overseas a fair bit, up to a year at a time.

    The smaller house is far, far nicer, more status better location, and though smaller, the rooms are better sizes imo.

    Looked at a dump this morning. Other forerunner in parent's mind is a terraced house (parent is hard of hearing though will not admit it, and i fear for the sanity of the neighbours on the tv or radio wall) and no parking. Parent has a blue badge, but fai.s to accept there might not always be nearby road parking available (its near white lines and a busy on street parking area with no disabled spot).

    Seeing one in a new place in a little while. Not seen details so do not know what to expect, but general location is all wrong. Parent seems to think i will be happy to regularly drive to airports and train stations, which at that sort of distance is simply not feasible.
  • lostinrates
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    edited 26 April 2012 at 11:50AM
    silvercar wrote: »
    It is not just about the bedrooms. If you are going to spend a lot of time in your home, you want room to move around, room to entertain and room to spread out your possessions. So a 2 bed (always nice to have a guest room) may suffice, but downstairs you want a reasonable sized kitchen and a lounge and a dining room..at least. Plus a bit of a garden is nice, downstairs toilet is convenient.

    Agree with this. But....my favorite, imo provides better for this than the smaller but more roomed ones parent prefers. E.g. My favoruite has a nice size garden (something i counselled against havung too much of but parent wants a garden, and this offers space for privacy, some where to dine al fresco, and room for a summer house type thing, but now parent says....too much garden! Also, is trying to take a lot of furniture with them. Too much. Imo, needs twoo receptions, so one can have a decent sofa bed for grandchildren or other guests, a decent kitchen, wallspace for books......rooms not claustrophobic (parent is claustrophobic and does not realise that finds it harder in small rooms, thinks more rooms help more, but in over thirty years of observation i have noted size of rooms makes huge difference to comfort level for them).

    Parent also wants room for guests to stay. My favourite does not offer lots of this, but is near nice b and bs. Invariably when peoe come to stay parent falls out with them and doesn't speak to them for some time. Parent is not an easy person!


    Oh , qlso, the house i like best is not the cheapest, though only one bed. It is by far the best location, and by far the most attractivw and better for entertaining and lifestyle though. Parent is being wise at least about wanting to save some money. Does seem to want an expensive to fix up one for less, doesn't really relaise the cost of things.....was horrified when i queried and suggested alternative quotes for things like windows, kitchens and rooves.
  • Doozergirl
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    edited 26 April 2012 at 12:24PM
    If they're anything like DH's parents, they are not up for negotiating. We had the same, got as far as having an offer accepted and then they decided that it was too small and they hated the place. Now they're staying where they are but don't seem to understand that the bungalow days have actually arrived; FIL struggles with stairs, MIL has a heart condition and that the time they think is going to be independent bungalow days, are in reality going to be the days when they can't actually cope anymore alone or one of them has probably already gone to the bungalow in the sky :o

    I think in laws have had people to stay once in the nine years they've lived in that house. Still want a spare room.

    I suspect your parent isn't as old as DH's but the reality of downsizing is a lot different to the prospect. I remember when we bought our last house, thinking it was a bit small, but even though I knew logically it wasn't, my head couldn't deal with the spacial difference between a very big house and a big one for a while. If they aren't that spacialy(sp?) aware, it will be even harder for them to imagine.

    If the worst comes to the worst, you'll have to engineer a rather scary survey, which won't be hard, as surveys always look scary ;)

    But I think there will be a 'right' house. It will have to be one that everyone agrees on. There is always one (unless you're into Location, Location, Location territory - I think they're looking for people atm!)

    I'd love to run away from my house and go house hunting right now. I miss it. Our planning application has gone in, and as we finally decided to show the neighbours, they went on holiday, meaning there will be a letter on the doorstep when they get back. Oh dear :( Decision by mid-June, prepared for a bit of a battle. We opted to build two smaller houses to sell rather than a forever house for us; I can't deal with moving even to the garden right now, but they will surpass building regulations and SAP without even factoring in any renewables. I'd love to build it - really excited about a method called SIPs - I'd like to specialise in this going forward, I think it's the future. We had some pretty decent quotes in from companies but one of them has now cottoned on to the fact that this could be something good for both of us going forward; we seem to have hit it off and they are re-quoting on a proper trade basis and actively trying to build the relationship :) It's been manic though.

    So will watch the planning portal waiting for the complaints to roll in. Some were quite amusing one time, I hope we get something to laugh at, as well as plainly angry neighbours :( We have to live here too, not that we'd ever want to create something nasty, but they won't know that. That's the only thing I have to persuade them. H reminds me that we have enough friends already and that what is currently here is AWFUL.
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  • SingleSue
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    My car is in the garage...the lights have stopped working, hopefully I think it may just be the switch but knowing my luck.....

    Really need the car today though, middle son has a gig tonight and I somehow have to transport his drum kit, going to be a nightmare if the car isn't back as there is lots of running around to do from 3pm this afternoon.

    Re houses, mum wants to sell up and downsize to a bungalow, dad doesn't want to move as he likes the space but he really struggles with the stairs now. Mum has been getting details from the estate agents and looking at Right Move (about the only thing she can do on the internet!) but it is falling on deaf ears...instead, dad has suggested getting the downstairs and partly outside toilet brought up to standard and possibly knocking through the pantry wall into it and the outside cupboard to make a downstairs shower room and toilet.

    Mum is scared of the cost so it will probably be a non starter.....
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  • GDB2222
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    SingleSue wrote: »
    My car is in the garage...the lights have stopped working, hopefully I think it may just be the switch but knowing my luck.....

    Really need the car today though, middle son has a gig tonight and I somehow have to transport his drum kit, going to be a nightmare if the car isn't back as there is lots of running around to do from 3pm this afternoon.

    Re houses, mum wants to sell up and downsize to a bungalow, dad doesn't want to move as he likes the space but he really struggles with the stairs now. Mum has been getting details from the estate agents and looking at Right Move (about the only thing she can do on the internet!) but it is falling on deaf ears...instead, dad has suggested getting the downstairs and partly outside toilet brought up to standard and possibly knocking through the pantry wall into it and the outside cupboard to make a downstairs shower room and toilet.

    Mum is scared of the cost so it will probably be a non starter.....

    I understand where your dad is coming from on this. How long have they been in the house?
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