Nice people thread part 5 - nicely does it

lostinrates

vivatifosi wrote: »

Touche mon brave.

Out of interest, I've told everyone here who I find attractive (George, Robert Downey Jr, etc). Who floats the NP's boats (or swan pedalos)?

Just thought i would tell you i am still thinking. Cannot think of anyone atm.

JonnyBravo

YAY!!

Off to Cheltenham tomorrow.
Going for my third Gold Cup in a row and wanting to back the winner for the third time too.
I'm not superstitious but I will be standing where I stood for the other two winning. Mainly to amuse my mates who mock my sudden superstition.
Have fun all.

silvercar

GDB2222 wrote: »

He's a mature student, well slightly mature - age 20. So, he meets the requirements for all 3 offers. They all seem a long way away, and I don't really want him driving to either of the UK ones. And then I'm supposed to provide him with a car?

lostinrates wrote: »

As a matter of interest why do you not want him driving?

We've stopped eldest having a car at uni. Lots of reasons:

1. Insurance for young men is so, so expensive that they need to have tiny cars (think a 19 year old on a group 1 car insurance is over 3k on average). I don't want my son driving up and down the motorway in car that small.
2. We parents get nervous about our kids driving, particularly long distances.
3. Parking around universities (usually city centre) and halls student areas is usually difficult and/or expensive.
4. Student areas tend to be expensive for car insurance quotes; insurers themselves load premiums for cars based at student addresses.
5. There is generally good public transport in student areas and city centres
6. Students have a fondness for alcohol (and possibly other substances); however sensible you think they are, you fell safer knowing the car and the student are 200 miles apart.
7. Students can't afford to run a car themselves.

chewmylegoff

vivatifosi wrote: »

Touche mon brave.

Out of interest, I've told everyone here who I find attractive (George, Robert Downey Jr, etc). Who floats the NP's boats (or swan pedalos)?

the stupid blonde cheerleader off glee.

shame she's not ginger though. and half a foot shorter.

silvercar

GDB2222 wrote: »

He's a mature student, well slightly mature - age 20. So, he meets the requirements for all 3 offers. They all seem a long way away, and I don't really want him driving to either of the UK ones. And then I'm supposed to provide him with a car?

You mean he could have gone to uni last year or the year before when tuition fees were cheaper? Sorry if I'm rubbing salt in the wound.

DS2's headmaster said the challenges facing our (molly-coddled) children in living away from home are considerable and we should consider where culturally they would feel most comfortable.

One of son's friends is so keen to go to a uni where he knows most people that he looked at the list of where the last few years students have gone and straw polled where his friends were applying and then searched all courses that he was eligible to find something with a reasonable offer. He then applied to study International relations combined with something obscure at Nottingham University with Nottingham Trent as back up.

silvercar

GDB2222 wrote: »

I'm 40 years out of date with my ideas about uni rankings.

This is a point that my eldest took seriously, he wanted a uni that he felt not only held reasonable rank now but had plans to move up the rankings. Obviously we don't know if the crystal ball will work, but it was something he considered.

GDB2222

lostinrates wrote: »

As a matter of interest why do you not want him driving?

1. Cost of a car/insurance etc
2. Young driver, driving long distances.

chewmylegoff

silvercar wrote: »

We've stopped eldest having a car at uni. Lots of reasons:

1. Insurance for young men is so, so expensive that they need to have tiny cars (think a 19 year old on a group 1 car insurance is over 3k on average). I don't want my son driving up and down the motorway in car that small.
2. We parents get nervous about our kids driving, particularly long distances.
3. Parking around universities (usually city centre) and halls student areas is usually difficult and/or expensive.
4. Student areas tend to be expensive for car insurance quotes; insurers themselves load premiums for cars based at student addresses.
5. There is generally good public transport in student areas and city centres
6. Students have a fondness for alcohol (and possibly other substances); however sensible you think they are, you fell safer knowing the car and the student are 200 miles apart.
7. Students can't afford to run a car themselves.

plus if you have a car at uni all your mates constantly pester you to drive them around the place and then get all grumpy when you wont do it, a couple of mates who did have cars at campus universities used to moan about it all the time.

i suppose the only advantage as a parent is that you don't need to drive up there yourself to cart all their possessions about the place at the end of the year.

GDB2222

silvercar wrote: »

You mean he could have gone to uni last year or the year before when tuition fees were cheaper? Sorry if I'm rubbing salt in the wound.

DS2's headmaster said the challenges facing our (molly-coddled) children in living away from home are considerable and we should consider where culturally they would feel most comfortable.

One of son's friends is so keen to go to a uni where he knows most people that he looked at the list of where the last few years students have gone and straw polled where his friends were applying and then searched all courses that he was eligible to find something with a reasonable offer. He then applied to study International relations combined with something obscure at Nottingham University with Nottingham Trent as back up.

Yes, he's applied 3 years in a row, determined to get an oxbridge acceptance, which he didn't get - cos he did not do a stroke of work at school.

lostinrates

Silver, i do not disagree with any of those points, i think they are all absolutely on the mark...that is not why i asked...( and in fact in most cases, but not all.....i would not have managed without a car, i know it would have severly hampered both education and career, bu i was in the sticks, not normal un)

Apart from point number two, and in a way, seven....., i agree in any case, and its not that i argue against those points exactly.

They are your kids, but......they are also now adults. I can imagine its the most difficult thing to do, to watch the kuds you have invested so much...emtionally and practically in make decisions about their careers and adult life.....and driving! If there were particular reasons not to want someone to drive, i might wonder if, for example, i wanted them to be where i could not get to help them on another continent as a 'dependant'.

Practically the ramifications for the natural protectivity, (not the not providing them with a car, which i see as a separate if related spthing) can be large, though i accept my vantage is skewed! My mil felt the same particularly about driving, so much so her other two children still do not drive...because they are stuck in the frame they were in when she died while the eldest two were students.
The driving i guess is a very common example of what can be a greater ( natural ) potentially hampering effect.

Difficult age....for parents as well as kds i guess!