Cost of Boiler Installation seems OTT

buglawton

Meanwhile, out there in the real world (scary!) someone is actually, physically, fitting boilers.

Leif

keystone wrote: »

Oh Leif my dear old chap don't be so sensitive. As it happens I was replying to your post which was dismissive of mine first. You'll note that I used the word "may". It may add a bit, it may add a lot, it may not add anything at all.

Actually your first post dismissed my first post by ignoring it. Don't be so sensitive old chap, what what!

To be serious, of course no-one here can give a reliable estimate, but the OP wanted some sort of ball park comparison.

Leif

buglawton wrote: »

Meanwhile, out there in the real world (scary!) someone is actually, physically, fitting boilers.

Sounds like the start of a thriller. Do continue, I'm gripped.

Ben84

Doesn't sound like a terribly expensive quote for this kind of work. However, you should get a few quotes and compare. Just be sure you're comparing them fairly as a boiler replacement isn't all the same. There's a lot of ways to cut costs through cutting corners and there can be long term consequences to not doing things like flushing out the old pipes and adding inhibitor chemicals to the water. There's also a lot of new regulations to meet, for example the existing electric supply and gas pipes may not be suitable to reuse. Some people will just use them again, but it won't be a job done to current standards and that too may be an issue later. They may also be planning to reuse old parts like the boiler pump and the controls, which may be old and better changed at the same time. So, give anyone with a more expensive quote a chance to justify it and ask the cheaper ones critical questions about anything they haven't stated clearly, then you'll have a better idea if you're actually comparing the same thing.

Edit to mention, some people on here talked about boilers in attics. I'm not keen on it at all. It's just about the least accessible place in the house if you ever want to check the boiler or change any settings on it. It's also non-heated space in many houses so during the coldest weather your boiler may freeze inside. Potential future buyers may not like it either, particularly those who are elderly or disabled may not like the idea of never being able to access their boiler either. Faults might go unnoticed much longer too when the boiler is hidden away. There are probably better places in many houses. A lot of people have an upstairs or downstairs loo with free space above the toilet doing little or nothing where a wall hung boiler could go.

Pont

Ben84 wrote: »

Edit to mention, some people on here talked about boilers in attics. I'm not keen on it at all. It's just about the least accessible place in the house if you ever want to check the boiler or change any settings on it. It's also non-heated space in many houses so during the coldest weather your boiler may freeze inside. Potential future buyers may not like it either, particularly those who are elderly or disabled may not like the idea of never being able to access their boiler either. Faults might go unnoticed much longer too when the boiler is hidden away. There are probably better places in many houses. A lot of people have an upstairs or downstairs loo with free space above the toilet doing little or nothing where a wall hung boiler could go.

Sensible comment. The reason I had my system relocated was that I have a huge loft space and plan on changing it into a 4th bedroom with en-suite when funds allow. Previously I had an ancient back boiler in my dining room and the hot tank in my bedroom which wasn't efficient and took up too much room in the bedroom. In my case, although not everyones, it made sense.

When my parents had their boiler replaced, to a combi system, they had it situated in their downstairs shower room. This made sense for them as they have a smallish kitchen and didn't want to use up wall space. It's all 'horses for courses' isn't it?

Nonetheless the OP has received several comments which would either a) Suggest the costs quoted are in the region of b) Suggest the costs quoted are too expensive and c) Think carefully as to if this is the best option for OP. Job done!

Leif

Ben84 wrote: »

Doesn't sound like a terribly expensive quote for this kind of work. However, you should get a few quotes and compare. Just be sure you're comparing them fairly as a boiler replacement isn't all the same. There's a lot of ways to cut costs through cutting corners and there can be long term consequences to not doing things like flushing out the old pipes and adding inhibitor chemicals to the water. There's also a lot of new regulations to meet, for example the existing electric supply and gas pipes may not be suitable to reuse. Some people will just use them again, but it won't be a job done to current standards and that too may be an issue later. They may also be planning to reuse old parts like the boiler pump and the controls, which may be old and better changed at the same time. So, give anyone with a more expensive quote a chance to justify it and ask the cheaper ones critical questions about anything they haven't stated clearly, then you'll have a better idea if you're actually comparing the same thing.

Edit to mention, some people on here talked about boilers in attics. I'm not keen on it at all. It's just about the least accessible place in the house if you ever want to check the boiler or change any settings on it. It's also non-heated space in many houses so during the coldest weather your boiler may freeze inside. Potential future buyers may not like it either, particularly those who are elderly or disabled may not like the idea of never being able to access their boiler either. Faults might go unnoticed much longer too when the boiler is hidden away. There are probably better places in many houses. A lot of people have an upstairs or downstairs loo with free space above the toilet doing little or nothing where a wall hung boiler could go.

Some good points there, many I had not thought about even though I have recently had a boiler fitted. When you say "There's a lot of ways to cut costs through cutting corners", it is also fair to say that there are several ways of doing the same thing. I certainly did not know what to ask, or look for. Asking the person to justify the higher price is a good idea.

unclebulgaria

converted-lurker wrote: »

No, we have been told we need to do boarding to boiler site and a rail i think he said.

You would need some form of safety regarding access, boards etc, as for a rail, if the boards are wide enough and cover enough area you shouldn't need one. There's nothing wrong with having a boiler in a loft apart from access of course. Just make sure you get decent insulation on the pipes and maybe a stand alone frost stat. Ive installed lots of boilers into lofts, ball ache when it comes to checking system pressure sometimes i agree but, they free up valuable space and "you don't have to worry about them being ugly" (customers quote).
p.s. lots of estimates/quotes is always the best way to go. Get references too.

unclebulgaria

redboy1 wrote: »

Calm down there's a good fella!

There is a good profit in that and you know it.

I agree there is good profit in that quote redboy but, there's an old saying that "a fool and his money are easily parted!"
Lots of quotes/estimates/references usually sorts the wheat from the chaff and its never a good idea to go for the cheapest quote/estimates anyway.
keystone is right when he says its not as easy as you make it sound.
I'm a Gas Safe registered plumber/heating engineer and it costs a bloody fortune, before i make any profit, to stay in business. Costing materials from the net is fine and in most cases cheaper in the long run but, wait until those materials don't work, are damaged, wrong spec and badly handled then see how much fun you have changing them!
My customers pay for my experience, my willingness to drop my evening meal and rush to their aid (yep most times I do get paid), my patience (not as daft as it sounds trust me!) and last but not least the responsibility I take for installing their appliance safely and efficiently.
Its swings and roundabouts in this trade and you make your money the best way you can, if you make a good profit so be it, if you don't get the job then maybe its time you weren't so greedy next time.

keystone

danielkeane wrote: »

Hi, you can find set price boiler installations online, search google for xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Really is easy and gives you the correct price for what you should be paying or even book an installation.

So whats your connectioin with this website you are spamming the forum with. Newbie you may be but I'm marking your posts as spam until persuaded otherwise.

Cheers

grumpyoldsteve

converted-lurker wrote: »

I have been quoted £3700 for a worcester bosch greenstar 30 cdi boiler including fitting in the loft. This is to replace a conventional system which was located in the kitchen.

The guy said it is fairly straightforward as the position in the loft will be directly above the kitchen area.

This price includes wireless thermostat downstairs, power flush and cleaning filter or whatever its called. Also removal of water tank and hot water cylinder.

I think this price sounds a bit OTT. But i have had another chap round who quoted similar. [We are in the south east not too far from watford area.]

Any advice appreciated
Thanks

I am getting our ancient boiler currently fitted in the kitchen replaced with one in the attic. I have been quoted for 2 options - a combi and a system boiler with a new sealed tank going in the attic too.
The combi option came out at £2900 and the system boiler with new tank in the attic at just under £3500. The system boiler is less expensive than a combi, but the tank and additional pipework add to the cost.
I now have 2 quotes for the system boiler option at around the £3500 mark (one more quote to go), so I am guessing this is a reasonable price for this option.
£3700 sounds a bit pricey for a the less complicated Combi option.