Daytime running lights

Road_Hog

pitkin2020 wrote: »

I suggest you get with the times, DRL's are a legal requirement on all new cars so whether your view is for against them is irrelevant.

It is Marxist/corporatist wnk and totally unnecessary.

You are being mislead by the Greenies who are in turn being mislead by the corporatists, into spending money on a useless idea.

There is no reason on Earth to have lights on during daylight, it uses extra fuel and pollutes more when no lighting is required.

If the state told you you had to die at 70 (because of pension costs) would you blindly follow that too?


PS This is an EU directive, nothing to do with common sense.

smjxm09

Trebor16 wrote: »

But it is not a legal requirement for them to be used, just for them to be fitted.

I have the latest Mondeo which came with DRL's. They can't be switched off and remain on even at night with the headlights on. Have to say I like them.

pitkin2020

petrolhead69 wrote: »

proper DRL units like the hellas need 3 wires to work properly, ground, an ignition switched feed (I tap off the fuel pump feed at the fusebox and add a 1a fuse so that they are only on while the engine is actually running, not just the ignition on) and a connection to the sidelights so the dim drastically when you turn the lights on because its dark. Always fit a fuse rated below the current rating of the wires. Use loom binding tape, spiral wrap, heatshrink sleeving or convoluted tubing to protect the wires from chafing or damage that could cause a short, use proper fixings such as cable ties to secure the wiring so it cant work its way somewhere it shouldn't go and route it away from hot exhausts spinning pulleys etc.
although tbh you probably would have got more friendly useful advice from pretty much most other motoring forums than this one, I dont know why I bother checking here anymore its just full of folk who want to dive off on a tangent at any opportunity trolling just to start an argument. It would be interesting to see if they are the same IRL and if so how often they go about with a black eye.
For the record I'm also a cyclist and a biker for decades and I have no objection to DRLs on cars, stop generalising. Everything in life shouldn't be catered to the lowest common denominator.

Thanks for such a sensible reply and you are spot on about getting proper advice on other car forums. Thanks for the info all the same very useful cheers

pitkin2020

Trebor16 wrote: »

If you look at my posts again Lum you will see my point is exactly the same as yours, that people will rely on them and look for the light rather than looking properly.

SO what you saying is then BY YOUR WORDS is that people will become reliant on seeing this DRL's and could basically miss you if your car doesn't have them? So the moneysaving top tip would not have them?

Can you still not see why your argument is still flawed, everything your saying is the reason to get them. As clearly by your logic without them cars are going to become invisible but the general population of drivers will become incompetent without having a light to lead them!!

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

correct but many people with these ignore that. the audi/bmw/citroen ones dont dim nor turn off at dipped/sidelight activation either their manually turned off but for people wanting to look posh keep them on vehicle built after feb 2011 supposed to have a switching relay in them so when the lights are activated they turn off automatically..

many people still drive about in the dark with them on wich they are not supposed to do they do dazzle others expecially with vehicle fitted with the HID dipped beam lamps.

Thats why I think they should only be fitted the correct way!!

Road_Hog wrote: »

It is Marxist/corporatist wnk and totally unnecessary.

You are being mislead by the Greenies who are in turn being mislead by the corporatists, into spending money on a useless idea.

There is no reason on Earth to have lights on during daylight, it uses extra fuel and pollutes more when no lighting is required.

If the state told you you had to die at 70 (because of pension costs) would you blindly follow that too?


PS This is an EU directive, nothing to do with common sense.

Thanks for the insight do you drive a prius by any chance.............

pitkin2020

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But, predominantly this is a money saving website (the clue is i the name), so to spend money on something that is totally unnecessary, goes against the grain.

Depends how you look at it, some are claiming that with the use of DRL's other drivers habits will change and they will only pay attention to cars with DRL's so clearly by saving money and not having them fitted I run the risk of a knock which would clearly cost me more than a set of DRL's

pitkin2020

I think I will get a setup just like this, at the very least i'll have a clearer view of the road

anotherbaldrick

One big problem with DRL's on some makes of cars like the lastest Golf. The main headlamp beam is in built in with the DRL , so that if you go over a road hump or even a pothole it can look for all the world to someone waiting as if you have flashed him with your headlights, when in fact it was just the bump deflection of the DRL beam.
Be prepared for a driver to pull out unexpectedly in you path and in an accident claiming you flashed him to go.

pitkin2020

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

One big problem with DRL's on some makes of cars like the lastest Golf. The main headlamp beam is in built in with the DRL , so that if you go over a road hump or even a pothole it can look for all the world to someone waiting as if you have flashed him with your headlights, when in fact it was just the bump deflection of the DRL beam.
Be prepared for a driver to pull out unexpectedly in you path and in an accident claiming you flashed him to go.

...and that driver that pulled out wouldn't have a leg to stand on. the Highway Code states "Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights in an attempt to intimidate other road users". Flashing to let people out of junctions etc is just a bad habit

Wig

pitkin2020 wrote: »

...and that driver that pulled out wouldn't have a leg to stand on. the Highway Code states "Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights in an attempt to intimidate other road users". Flashing to let people out of junctions etc is just a bad habit

Or alternatively, and I'm not saying it would happen, just a counter argument, be prepared for cars to have more probability to pull out infront of you whereas otherwise they wouldn't have, not causing an impact but an inconvienience to yourself.

pitkin2020

Wig wrote: »

Or alternatively, and I'm not saying it would happen, just a counter argument, be prepared for cars to have more probability to pull out infront of you whereas otherwise they wouldn't have, not causing an impact but an inconvienience to yourself.

ifs and buts though to be fair. If you have driven around marsh barton industrial estate you'll find they just pull out in front of you whether you have lights on or not, its like running the gauntlet lol.