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  • this isn't a don't worry post toniq as you're doing the best thing and getting it check out. If it worries you then its a proper concern but if the docs seem happy don't forget that the growth curves are a distribution of weights so someone has to be at the top and someone has to be at the bottom. and some babies behave like the curves simply don't exist at all.

    Hope the docs can put your mind at rest with all the other contributing factors you're concenred about though :-D

    went to our first baby group today and got soaked through so bought myself a gingerbread man... :-D
  • turtlemoose
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    fluff your HV sounds a bit like the one I saw. There see actually 2 of them in the room and when I confirmed I am EBF, they did a look between themselves and the main one then frowned and sighed, and said "come back in 2 weeks and we'll see how he's doing". I really felt they were disapproving of the BFing.

    I do wonder though, what those charts are made from. Because it depends what was more common at the time - are they based on FF, BF, or a mixture? Advice used to be to wean at 4 months ...are those babies included? Cuz they'd surely be heavier than babes on just milk. But anyway, I think they should do separate charts - for formula, for breast, for mixed, and for early weaning - if they are going to be so militant about it then they should at least be relevant and accurate.

    Plus I suppose by the fact they are averages, somebody has to be the 1st or 100th centile, otherwise it wouldn't make sense.

  • I do wonder though, what those charts are made from. Because it depends what was more common at the time - are they based on FF, BF, or a mixture? Advice used to be to wean at 4 months ...are those babies included? Cuz they'd surely be heavier than babes on just milk. But anyway, I think they should do separate charts - for formula, for breast, for mixed, and for early weaning - if they are going to be so militant about it then they should at least be relevant and accurate.

    Plus I suppose by the fact they are averages, somebody has to be the 1st or 100th centile, otherwise it wouldn't make sense.

    OMG I know the answer to this one! Not had baby yet, but at my BF class last week they said that charts used to be mixed, which gives a totally unrealistic view for BF only babies who tend to weigh less. So now charts should be for either FF or BF depending what you are doing. Whether that has filtered out to HVs who knows.

    Can't remember why BF babies on average weighed less but it was meant to be a good thing
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    fluff your HV sounds a bit like the one I saw. There see actually 2 of them in the room and when I confirmed I am EBF, they did a look between themselves and the main one then frowned and sighed, and said "come back in 2 weeks and we'll see how he's doing". I really felt they were disapproving of the BFing.

    That's exactly how I felt! Everyone I'd seen up until that point had been so positive about BF that I assumed the encouragement would continue. I got the distinct impression she thought that what I was doing was in some way asking for trouble. After I'd spoken to her I went to the adjacent room to feed Freddie (he'd been screaming throughout our conversation and she didn't seem too impressed by that). Whilst I was there I heard her telling the next woman that there was little point BFing beyond 12 weeks! That's not the message you get from everyone else. Perhaps she just hates tits or something.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Triangle
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    Please don't think I'm stupid for posting this :( but its worrying me a bit - what do you ladies do with your babies in the day? Sounds a strange question so I'll explain!

    Joseph is now 8 and a half weeks. We often go out for a couple of hours in the day- either a mooch into town in the pram or seeing family/friends or a walk with the dog (J in baby sling).

    Today I could not be bothered to do anything at all - we had lots of cuddles, I watched a film and did a bit of housework (or to be precise, 5 minutes washing up!) when he was asleep. When awake, he has been on play gym for a very short while and in his baby chair for longer. But for some stupid reason I feel guilty - like I should be doing more with him? I talk regularly to him and sing too...and try and get him interested in a couple of toys! In September our weekly baby group re-starts and we are also going to Waterbabies once a week. We may also try out a baby music group held at local children's centre.

    I don't know what reassurance I'm after really - but if anyone has any that would be great! :) I really do doubt myself sometimes :(
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  • sunshine_1988
    sunshine_1988 Posts: 2,119 Forumite
    edited 15 August 2012 at 5:40PM
    toniq wrote: »
    My Jessies weight is such a worry to me, I've booked a dr's appt to discuss it, I had gestational diabetes in pregnancy, I was on an extremely high insulin and metformin regime which still didn't control it, because of risk of still birth, can happen to babies of mums with gest diabetes,and because of the risk of baby suddenly becoming large and getting stuck I had to have a C section, Baby was also breech!

    Jess was delivered at 37 and half weeks and was 5lb15 at birth, her sugar took a day to stabilise.

    So my worry is Jess is over 99th for weight and height, I worry did it affect heror did any of the Ivf drugs affect her?, and how come she is so big, I'm really not into the *don't worry* comments, it is not normal for her to be this large.
    My Hv said she looks healthy so not to worry.........I haven't been abck since Jess was 4months as I'll snap at her.g

    sorry to vent x

    Hey hun, if you are concerned then definately best to put your mind at rest and talk to the doc. Aiden is fairly chunky, he used to vary from 75th to 91st for weight but settled on 75th. I was worried early on as he piled the weight on so I asked at our 6 wk check and my dr put my mind at ease.

    What do you think she weighs now? Or what did she weigh at 4 months? Ill check what Aiden was.

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  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    Triangle wrote: »
    Please don't think I'm stupid for posting this :( but its worrying me a bit - what do you ladies do with your babies in the day? Sounds a strange question so I'll explain!

    Joseph is now 8 and a half weeks. We often go out for a couple of hours in the day- either a mooch into town in the pram or seeing family/friends or a walk with the dog (J in baby sling).

    Today I could not be bothered to do anything at all - we had lots of cuddles, I watched a film and did a bit of housework (or to be precise, 5 minutes washing up!) when he was asleep. When awake, he has been on play gym for a very short while and in his baby chair for longer. But for some stupid reason I feel guilty - like I should be doing more with him? I talk regularly to him and sing too...and try and get him interested in a couple of toys! In September our weekly baby group re-starts and we are also going to Waterbabies once a week. We may also try out a baby music group held at local children's centre.

    I don't know what reassurance I'm after really - but if anyone has any that would be great! :) I really do doubt myself sometimes :(

    I think we've been brainwashed into the idea that babies need constant stimulation so that they learn stuff. As far as I can tell, small babies don't need anything structured at all - at that age everything's a learning opportunity and they just soak up their surroundings.

    But... we've all bought into this idea of playing them classical music and teaching them calculus or the piano or something and that if we don't, we'll have a baby with the dull gleam of idiocy in their eyes. It's nonsense really - just another way that adults compete with adults. I don't think it makes much difference to your baby whether you bang on about Shakespeare all day or just cuddle it. In fact, he'd no doubt prefer the cuddling.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Lirin
    Lirin Posts: 2,525 Forumite
    Toniq- Yes, push to get checked out if you are worried. Better to be safe...

    Triangle- I had felt the same- mainly because when I was pregnant, all I was getting told about was how busy I would be! Now, with baby, I am not half as busy as I thought, though it is tiring. You don't need to constantly stimulate baby- would that not leave them grumpy and upset, because they're tired? Everything baby sees it's trying to make sense of- the wallpaper, the cat, the tv, wrapping paper.... it's getting stimulation just by looking around. Don't doubt yourself. Rose plays on the ground with toys, or watches Disney while I tidy up or iron.... I take her into the kitchen with me when I'm cooking and give her melon, pineapple- anything, really, to play with.. It's hard when they're at your babies age- there is not much interaction from them, and well- they do a bored face so well! :rotfl:They're anything but, they just can't control their features yet. I sing to Rose, mainly about things I'm doing, rather than rhymes- the only rhyme I can remember is Happy Feet. Singing- Mummy's changing the car tyre, Let's find Daddy's other sock, Where the hell is the housephone?- all current favourites.....
  • turtlemoose
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    Haha Lirin glad to hear I'm not the only one who does a singing commentary of what I'm doing :rotfl:
  • Gillyx
    Gillyx Posts: 6,847 Forumite
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    I am exhausted. Physically exhausted. I thought looking after a newborn was tiring. Aaron has now learnt how to pull himself up on everything, in record time too. Used to take him a while he does it with ease now. Thank God it is bedtime Zzzzzzz.
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