MSE Newborn to 1 year Baby Club 1

fluffnutter

Freddie looks aghast if I try to put anything in his mouth that's not my tit. Apart from the baby paracetamol. He loves that. I'm breeding a drug addict with a boob fixation

JT100

morocha ...
I completely agree with fluffnutter. Babies love being outside, even in chilly weather like today. The fresh air is good for them and even better for you. They like the change of scenery and often drop off for long enough for you to have a sit down and a coffee or a G and T! Please don't let the crying keep you at home. My son cried loads as a baby and I found getting out to a park where his cries were muffled by the noise of the park (and muffled under the raincover!) was great for us both. I could 'zone out' from the noise, get some exercise and he fell asleep so much quicker than when we were at home both getting all stressed. I aimed to get out of the house every single day .. no matter what the weather.
I attempted expressing ... I was terrible at it! It made me cry as I got so little out compared to the great job my children did at boob emptying. I didn't bother with expressing again and just breastfed until I went back to work and they were ready for a cup by then.

Gillyx

Just because babies are sick with gaviscon doesn't mean that they don't Have reflux. In my experience GP's and health visitors don't have a lot of experience with that type of thing. I didnt get anywhere with my GP or HV and that was after maybe 12 separate visits. The peadatrician was brilliant though. Again Id look into going dairy free, it takes time as so much food has dairy in it, but I honestly had a different child when we got him dairy free. It made such a difference, the comfort feeding eased, he stopped crying 24/7, and would actually be content to be put down for 2 minutes.

morocha

i feel like everyones lifes is the same and im stuck cos im BF and no one can help me. baby does goes to sleep when we are out tho, just leaves the house in histerical cry.
feel crap also cos all my friends with young babies are having a great time with them, good mood, easy chilled, good sleeper etc...

Gillyx

Morocha you're not the only one honestly, I used to feel like that and I still do, especially when I see people out with there obviously very young babies happy as larry. (I know now underneath they may not be as happy as they look) but when A was that age I couldn't leave the house, as all he did was scream, even when we were out, he'd scream and scream and scream. It was exhausting and mentally and physically draining.

If you truly believe your baby is unhappy, go back to the GP's, ask for a referral to the hospital, they are not allowed to deny you it or turn you down. There are other medications, easier to give too, as just liquid you can syringe in.

I know it's hard just now but once they're properly medicated for reflux life becomes so much easier. xxx

morocha

thank you, i will do that, hv and dr dont know what to do,so il ask for a referal to see the paedriatician when they contact me after their meeting to discuss my dd's case.

martafdz

My LO uses a dummy sometimes during the day, but she doesn't have it at night. She would have it when she's too tired and wants to sleep, like 5min before nodding off completely, then she would spat it out when she's deep asleep. She also has it when she's comfort eating, I can see she's not very interested in the bottle, like sucking softly, then I swap the bottle for the dummy, if she's happy with that, I know she didn't need more milk. She's got two dummies for newborns, the Tommie tippee one and the MAM one, that looks exactly like the one in Freddie's pic. She takes the MAM better than the other one. But I only offer it when I see she's tired but struggling to fall asleep or when I see she's drinking for the sake of sucking. Oh, no, sorry, I also give it when she's grunting with wind pain, for some reason it helps her trump, as if she were biting on it to help the pushing.

Morocha, I really feel your pain, my LO had a few weeks of absolute screaming the whole day. It can be lots of things, but try as many tips as you can and see what works for Jade. I second the idea of taking her out, my LO actually likes crowded places, it's like white noise and put her to sleep! We went out with her three times now to dine out, I was concerned that she would cry during the meal, but she slept all through! My baby changed completely since I put her in the carrier (stretchy wrap), the upright position helped her with the silent reflux and the contact kept her belly warm, plus she calmed down a lot by hearing my heart. During the day, she would sleep 30min if she's in her cot, but about 3h if she's in the carrier. She needs to fall asleep whilst I walk around or bounce in the gym ball, then I can just sit down on the sofa and recline a bit to let her sleep on me, so I can watch tv, do stuff on the laptop or have a nap in that position. Things that have helped me to deal with her crying, for whatever reason:

- Carrier: helped with reflux, to put her to sleep, to get her to burp if I'm bouncing too, to help me do some stuff around
- Taking her in pram: helped to make her sleep sometimes (she prefers the carrier), relieves some tummy pain because the bumps make the air move and she trumps and poos more easily that day (generally but not always). Also gets me out of the flat so I feel a person again!!
- Tummy massage, waist twisters and bicycles: helps to release some bottom wind
- Warm bottle: helps her relax, trump and sometimes also poo. I give her the other bottles at room temperature, the warm ones before night time or when I see she's not had a poo for over 24h
- Make sure she has some sleep every three hours at least, my LO gets over stimulated easily and if she does not have naps during the day, she won't settle at all in the evening and she could cry for hours. This came as a surprise to me, I thought if she was tired, she would fall asleep, but it's the opposite, the less she sleeps during the day, the more unsettled she is during the evening and the longer it takes to put her to sleep. I had to try different positions and ways to finally find what makes her fall asleep the quickest way. For my LO, it involves being carried upright (iwith or without carrier), pressing her head gently to my chest or putting a folded muslin as pillow in between, then either walk around the room slowly, or bounce on the gym ball gently. Generally silence works best for me, but music or singing has also worked. The over tiredness has been my main issue after the reflux got better. I thought it was colic because it was happening most evenings, although also mornings, but never at night. I now feed her, play with her until she starts grumbling and immediately try to make her fall asleep as soon as she starts moaning, as I know it cannot be a feed (she just had one) or nappy (I change it before the feed).
- changing nappy before the feed: after the feed it would make her reflux, or wake her up. I do it now before and she's much happier. Unless she's done a poo, when I change her immediately.
- Infacol : helped to bring the burps easily, took a few days to start working. I now am stopping it, because I wonder if it's giving her the painful trumping, because it brings little bubbles together to make a big one, so I wonder if she doesn't burp it, would it make it more difficult to trump?
- Gaviscon : helped with reflux, but made her constipated and worsened the trumping, so we stopped.
- Keep belly warm by putting folded cloth or blanket on her tummy only, so she doesn't overheat. It has helped to make her trump or poo sometimes.
- Sleeping bag: she used to kick the blankets and get cold in the night, hence waking up more often, getting the tummy cold and worsening the tummy pain. She sleeps better in the sleeping bag
- Co sleeping when she gets the wind tummy pain for a couple of hours. She wakes up at 6 every day grunting and kicking her legs with wind. I first give her the dummy and she would trump for a while, I then feed her, keep her upright for a while (she's still sleeping) and then I lay her by my side in bed whilst I rub her belly gently. I think my smell, the warmth of my body and the rubbing help her relax and sleep for another hour or two.

She did scream with me because of hunger, but it was a high pitch cry, very sudden and loud. I am taking anti inflamatories and they reduced my milk supply, which I did not know until it was too late. I now can distinguish the cries and get better at responding.

Could you list all the symptoms you can see in her? How is the cry? How would you describe it? Does she eat her hands (hunger), rub her eyes (tired), grab her ear (tired), pull her lower lip (want attention), cries intermittently like starts loud, goes down, silence starts again, or even prolongs the cry but lowering the voivr? (tired usually too, overstimulated).

The book "Baby week by week" has good advice and tips to understand different cues related to crying, feeding, sleeping, etc. I would highly recommend it.

Sorry for massive post!!!!

moneypenny21

I second mam dummies she keeps them in much better.

Morocha - can someone take her when she is not feeding? I agree with fluff. You need a rest! Sleep deprivation is the worst! Big hugs xxx

Gillyx

MAM dummies we use too

tazzyb

Advised to try and get LO to take a dummy by HV. I have been diagnosed with PND and I am struggling with the amount if time my son wants to spend on the boob. A good portion of time he is not feeding and just using me for comfort so it would possibly help if I could slip my nipple out and a dummy in and put him in his Moses basket to sleep.

The last few days he has started to get upset while feeding screaming and crying while still attached, pulling back the. Pushing his face right into my boob the leaving go. Legs and arms kicking and waving like crazy. Then wanting to latch straight back on. I have tried winding him and offering other boob but neither seems to help. It only lasts a few minutes then he finishes feed happily. It is also not happening every feed. Not seeing HV for over a week. Any advice and suggestions would be great. Thanks