MSE Newborn to 1 year Baby Club 1

katiechoc_2

Oh sunshine I'm so sorry to hear Aiden's poorly . Big hugs to all 3 of you. Hopefully they'll get him sorted out quickly so you can get him home where he belongs. xxx

Gillyx

They say it can take up to 7 days on special formulas to see any difference Marta. As it can take a few days for everything to come out of there systems.

Are you still giving the gaviscon? I think they don't recommend to give comfort milk and gaviscon, so I'd go with one or the other. If in 5-7 days you don't see any improvement I'd consider going back to the doctor.

With A's reflux he loved the bath or any sort of water around him, I remember filling the bath at 3 in the morning many a night to calm him down and stop the screaming even for 5 minutes

martafdz

Missbunbury, she looks as if she were thinking there, with her little hand just below the chin, lol

I wasn't sure about the shower but they said it in antenatal, so I though I could try. I would not do it on my own, though, I need my DH to pass her to me and get her out / dry her whilst I finish my shower and get out myself. I sat in the bath, took the shower head, fill the bath a bit so I could put the water thermometer, take the shower head and ask my DH to pass her to me. At first she cried like "wth is this?", but in under a minute she was looking around peacefully and smiling. I guess it was just whilst she got used to the feeling of the water and the temperature. I passed the showerhead around her back in circles, then between our chests, around again and so on.I had the plug on, so the bath filled a bit and covered her feet in that position. We were just sat there, with the showerhead around us, for ages, until I thought she had enough and I asked dad to pick her up, which she didn't like, lol, but I needed to finish.my shower and get some shower gel on me! She loved it, I might start doing long showers with her when DH is home, I don't get a chance when he's working!

martafdz

Hi gillyx! Nope, I stopped the gaviscon because she got increasingly thicker poos, and she kept straining more and more. However, I might consider going back to it with normal milk. It's just that this comfort milk stinks very badly! Yesterday she had a great day until the late evening, only with infacol and normal milk, but also with keeping her upright, using the sling a lot for that, letting her sleep on it for tummy to tummy warmth... I think all that worked, to some extent. Then today we swapped milk and I got a crying baby the whole day... It just felt as if the change was to the worst! idk... I just want her to be happy and comfy, like every mummy here with their LOs!! I don't think her reflux/colic/whatever she's got is as bad as what some of you have suffered. It seems to be intermittent and mainly a 09am - 10pm thing, as it is usually between those hours and very rarely during the night. Also, before today,she seemed to find comfort in the upright position + walking around with her. I assume that babies.with bigger problems do not find comfort in pretty much anything. Idk, I'm doubting myself now and all I know.

Bamama

Lol sunshine. They are rather warm places. I lived in vests while I was there.
Glad to hear he's doing better. Hope you've got used to the beeping (such a pain) xxx

Marta, I hope you find a solution. If she's only uncomfortable in the day... is there anything you do differently at night?

Oh AFM, this is the first wake up so I'm a bit happier lol XD I'm really hungry though :S will have to get something to munch when he's down.

martafdz

Nope, I do the same but in the dark and in silence. She also feeds only half awake and mostly with her eyes closed. She does this with her night feeds until about 7-8 am, then it's as if somebody had activated a secret button and she feeds with her eyes open, looks around and takes ages to get her to sleep! She's done very well tonight so far. She had one feed at 12;30 and another just now at 4:30. She's grunting in the moses now. I don't understand why she grunts so much there, she.would make only a couple of noises in the travel cot none if she's on our lap, yet she would grunt and make lots of noises if she's in the basket!

Sammie_03

sunshine- just checking to see how Aiden is?
X

katiechoc_2

Morning ladies, sunshine how is Aiden this morning? Hope hes on the mend. Xxx

DayDreamBeliever_2

Kira000 wrote: »

I feel your pain! I have had the exact same worries with little CJ since she was wee. All the books said newborns sleep up to 20hrs a day... not mine! 7-8 hours was good going.
I've done my head in with worrying about it, and then questioning whether i should just let it be, and let her do what she wants. In her 12 months, i tried driving her round, rocking, feeding, 2hour walks, singing and sometimes, all of them...
I think where i have got to is that YES, i should intervene and she DOES need more sleep than she would do off her own bat, and that some babies, just don't have the sleep skills to do it by themselves. And yes the red eyes, staring baby look is very familiar to me!
One of the main issues with CJ especially in the early months, is that her sleep"queues" are very hard to see- so easy to miss, and then she tipped over into overtired, and got even harder to go off to sleep, and lo. a vicious circle starts. By the time she actually yawns, she was already well over.
The two most successful things in terms of getting her more sleep, were 1) introducing an age/time based schedule based on how long roughly children of X age should be awake before a nap.That really helped both of us prevent her getting too tired to sleep.
I cant remember how old your LO is?
Where we were recently till about 11months, was morning, then 3 hours awake, nap, three hours awake, nap, three/four hours awake, bed time.
As a much younger baby, it was morning, then 1 hour awake, nap, 2 hours awake, nap, 2 hours awake, nap, 2 hours awake, then bed.
Between the two routines, we have gradually extended the awake time, and dropped naps as she got older.

The second thing, was working on her sleep skills, having a nap routine, so using the same phrases every time before a nap, sitting in the nursing chair for a cuddle in a dimmed room, putting on her Ewan dream sheep, then putting her down sleepy, and then using the gradual withdrawl method of sleep training. Basically giving her lots of warning that it was nap time.
It hasnt been easy, and there are developmental phases when nap times go to pot and i've resorted to boobing her to sleep, and getting into bed with her, but she is so much better now.

HTH, Shout if you want to ask anything else.

Thank you so much kira, makes so much sense and I will definately be trying to introduce some sort of routine. We have a nighttime routine which works really well as she sleeps beautifully overnight so I don't know why it hasn't occured to try the same for naps! I guess when her dad is here we did have a routine without even planning to in that she was awake, changed, fed, winded, played a little (sung too etc) fed again, winded and her daddy then settled her down to sleep which always worked as she was sleeping really well day and night, I've mastered the nighttime routine without him and will try from today with the naps - he's back on the 29th so i guess we'll need to amend and adapt but at least I have some sort of plan and don't feel so helpless. Thank you so much again!

Sunshine, I hope last night went well and your little man is feeling brighter this morning x

Gillyx

martafdz wrote: »

Hi gillyx! Nope, I stopped the gaviscon because she got increasingly thicker poos, and she kept straining more and more. However, I might consider going back to it with normal milk. It's just that this comfort milk stinks very badly! Yesterday she had a great day until the late evening, only with infacol and normal milk, but also with keeping her upright, using the sling a lot for that, letting her sleep on it for tummy to tummy warmth... I think all that worked, to some extent. Then today we swapped milk and I got a crying baby the whole day... It just felt as if the change was to the worst! idk... I just want her to be happy and comfy, like every mummy here with their LOs!! I don't think her reflux/colic/whatever she's got is as bad as what some of you have suffered. It seems to be intermittent and mainly a 09am - 10pm thing, as it is usually between those hours and very rarely during the night. Also, before today,she seemed to find comfort in the upright position + walking around with her. I assume that babies.with bigger problems do not find comfort in pretty much anything. Idk, I'm doubting myself now and all I know.

No thats ok, we got the thick poops with gaviscon too, it really bunged him up, but if you feel it was working, there are things the doctor can give you to help them go. Funny you should say that because the reflux was always much worse here at night. We could comfort him though but it was all tummy to tummy, all night, so the minute we moved to sleep and try put him down all hell broke loose.

If it is reflux chances are she will grow out of it, but there are ways to ease it while she does. What I would say if you are going to try anything, comfort milk, gaviscon etc let it go a few days, even if things are getting worse I would give it 5-7 days, when you go back to the doctor you can speak to them and say I tried x for a week and y for a week and no improvement. If you've only tried them for a day here and there it's hard for them to suggest what to do next. I know the milk doesn't smell great, the milk my wee one is on is completely dairy free and it smells like rotten vegetables/potatoes. He got used to it though and downs it now without a second thought

I know how tough it is in the beginning but it will get better I promise.


Hope Aiden is ok Sunshine xx