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donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

Hence buy a drink and you can use the loo

if i dont want to buy something then i wont. if there is a sign saying customers only then i will take notice and not go in. i will just go somewhere else and like i said it will put me off ever being a customer there. well it doesnt exactly fit in with the friendly and welcoming they are meant to portray does it.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

if i dont want to buy something then i wont. if there is a sign saying customers only then i will take notice and not go in. i will just go somewhere else and like i said it will put me off ever being a customer there. well it doesnt exactly fit in with the friendly and welcoming they are meant to portray does it.

This is not the point I am making at all

JC say they have not toilets to use but happy for you to use someone else's

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

This is not the point I am making at all

JC say they have not toilets to use but happy for you to use someone else's

yes i agree the jobcentre is out of order.

grai

as someone who worked in a cafe on Clapham Common where people who were not customers couldn't be stopped using our toilets, keeping the the loos at a respectable standard needed someone to be employed as a cleaner solely for the toilets but I was expected to do it as well as my other duties :mad:

places say "customers only" to try and keep the numbers down because otherwise you end up running a public lavatory for the entire neighbourhood

the JC should know this

donnajunkie

grai wrote: »

as someone who worked in a cafe on Clapham Common where people who were not customers couldn't be stopped using our toilets, keeping the the loos at a respectable standard needed someone to be employed as a cleaner solely for the toilets but I was expected to do it as well as my other duties :mad:

places say "customers only" to try and keep the numbers down because otherwise you end up running a public lavatory for the entire neighbourhood

the JC should know this

you cant know it wouldnt still be in a state if only used by customers. it is surely expected that in any busy place the toilet will be used alot. sadly in some places the people who use it dont respect it. in some places they do.

grai

donnajunkie wrote: »

you cant know it wouldnt still be in a state if only used by customers. it is surely expected that in any busy place the toilet will be used alot. sadly in some places the people who use it dont respect it. in some places they do.

it was the sheer numbers that was the problem rather than people being disrespectful - just keeping the loo rolls topped up was a full time job

the point of this is how inconsiderate the JC are being to send claimants to a cafe when they have their own toilets on the premises

Also it's just another snotty way of giving people the message "you do not qualify for the dignity of using our toilets because you are on the dole"

donnajunkie

grai wrote: »

it was the sheer numbers that was the problem rather than people being disrespectful - just keeping the loo rolls topped up was a full time job

the point of this is how inconsiderate the JC are being to send claimants to a cafe when they have their own toilets on the premises

Also it's just another snotty way of giving people the message "you do not qualify for the dignity of using our toilets because you are on the dole"

yeah, i can imagine it being an issue if there are excessive numbers doing it. i think the jobcentre do what they do because they expect people to vandalise them in revenge for being sent there. they obviously dont want people useing the staff toilets incase of assaults happening. its no excuse for requiring people to attend a place where they ignore their duty to provide basic facilities. if they cant come up with a solution they shouldnt require people to attend for any longer than 30 minutes.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

yeah, i can imagine it being an issue if there are excessive numbers doing it. i think the jobcentre do what they do because they expect people to vandalise them in revenge for being sent there. they obviously dont want people useing the staff toilets incase of assaults happening. its no excuse for requiring people to attend a place where they ignore their duty to provide basic facilities. if they cant come up with a solution they shouldnt require people to attend for any longer than 30 minutes.

No my JC HAVE a toilet that used to be for the public many many years ago so I am told but now they the public cant use them as they can not monitor what you do in there and I do not mean smash it up.

That's a very odd view you have of the unemployed that we will smash up the loo.

All you have to do is ask to use the loo and go to what ever one they tell you to use and take your time doing so

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

No my JC HAVE a toilet that used to be for the public many many years ago so I am told but now they the public cant use them as they can not monitor what you do in there and I do not mean smash it up.

That's a very odd view you have of the unemployed that we will smash up the loo.

All you have to do is ask to use the loo and go to what ever one they tell you to use and take your time doing so

you say they want to monitor what you do in there but cant and you dont think what they are worried about is you getting upto mischief? what are you on about view of the unemployed? there are people who would get upto no good. its that simple.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

you say they want to monitor what you do in there but cant and you dont think what they are worried about is you getting upto mischief? what are you on about view of the unemployed? there are people who would get upto no good. its that simple.

No the simple thing is this - make a formal complaint when the JC say they have no loos yet keep 'you' there for an hour or more. Very simple health and safety issue

And no its not good enough so say 'yeah you can use the toilets 10 miles away'! LOL

How many people would get up to no good in the loo? I don't know anyone that would other than use the toilet. You are making a bigger issue out of this.

If no one wants to speak up at the job centre then more fool them