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  • CazGreg
    CazGreg Posts: 210 Forumite
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    What are my obligations re keeping the Work Programme informed now I've got a job? I don't believe I have any, but perhaps someone could clarify for me please.

    I got a job after I'd been to the first 'signing up' appointment with A4e (I know!!), but before I attended any training with them.

    They sent me a form to complete when I said I'd got a job. I replied saying I'd prefer not to give them the details (for lots of reasons, not least because they certainly don't deserve anything as I got the job myself!). However, they replied again saying they needed the details and that they 'had' to follow up with me for two years.

    Can anyone clarify what my obligations, if any, are? I am still technically signing on for another couple of weeks before job begins.
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  • LadyMissA
    LadyMissA Posts: 3,263 Forumite
    CazGreg wrote: »
    What are my obligations re keeping the Work Programme informed now I've got a job? I don't believe I have any, but perhaps someone could clarify for me please.

    I got a job after I'd been to the first 'signing up' appointment with A4e (I know!!), but before I attended any training with them.

    They sent me a form to complete when I said I'd got a job. I replied saying I'd prefer not to give them the details (for lots of reasons, not least because they certainly don't deserve anything as I got the job myself!). However, they replied again saying they needed the details and that they 'had' to follow up with me for two years.

    Can anyone clarify what my obligations, if any, are? I am still technically signing on for another couple of weeks before job begins.

    IF you have any other appointments in this time with the WP you have to go

    Did you sign any consent form when you attended the wP the first time?

    Since you are signing off you do not need to tell them where you are going to work in fact you could just be signing off and not working at all and it's nothing to do with them

    If however you have signed the consent form withdraw the consent now by letter/email

    They only want to know where you are going so they can claim their payment!
  • Coopdivi
    Coopdivi Posts: 3,412 Forumite
    edited 5 March 2012 at 5:27PM
    Play them at their own game. Ask them what cut from their bonus they are prepared to pay you.

    Otherwise sling the form in the bin and forget about it.

    In answer to CazGreg
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    CazGreg wrote: »
    What are my obligations re keeping the Work Programme informed now I've got a job? I don't believe I have any, but perhaps someone could clarify for me please.

    I got a job after I'd been to the first 'signing up' appointment with A4e (I know!!), but before I attended any training with them.

    They sent me a form to complete when I said I'd got a job. I replied saying I'd prefer not to give them the details (for lots of reasons, not least because they certainly don't deserve anything as I got the job myself!). However, they replied again saying they needed the details and that they 'had' to follow up with me for two years.

    Can anyone clarify what my obligations, if any, are? I am still technically signing on for another couple of weeks before job begins.
    you are not signing on anymore so they dont have any power over you anymore. if you lose the job within the 2 years you will get refered straight back to them though.
  • LadyMissA
    LadyMissA Posts: 3,263 Forumite
    you are not signing on anymore so they dont have any power over you anymore. if you lose the job within the 2 years you will get refered straight back to them though.
    they are still signing for a few weeks and if a WP appointment turns up in the meantime they have to attend. You have to attend till you are told not to or start work
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    LadyMissA wrote: »
    they are still signing for a few weeks and if a WP appointment turns up in the meantime they have to attend. You have to attend till you are told not to or start work
    yes that is true. they dont need to tell anyone about the job until the day they sign off and even then they dont have to tell the job centre that getting a job is the reason they are signing off. they really shouldnt mention anything to the provider about the job if they dont want to get hassled between now and the start date.
  • Morlock
    Morlock Posts: 3,265 Forumite
    LadyMissA wrote: »
    Did you sign any consent form when you attended the wP the first time?

    If however you have signed the consent form withdraw the consent now by letter/email

    This^^

    Anyone who is mandated on to the Work Programme should NOT sign any consent forms at all, there is NO requirement to do so and it will not affect entitlement to benefits in any way.

    Work Programme staff may try and intimidate you to sign, but do not sign them. If you have already signed consent forms, write a letter withdrawing your consent.
  • Lith
    Lith Posts: 897 Forumite
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    Morlock wrote: »
    Lol, absolute rubbish.

    lol but i've done it my self when i was 18 to avoid a course


    absolute rubbish eh? :rotfl:


    Maybe now it's not how it works i wouldn't know (just assumed) lol
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  • Morlock
    Morlock Posts: 3,265 Forumite
    Lith wrote: »
    Maybe now it's not how it works i wouldn't know (just assumed) lol

    The DWP obviously got wise to that one and implemented a system which closed the loophole.
  • jayne30
    jayne30 Posts: 52 Forumite
    Went to my induction today for 2nd stage of Serco work programme. Was with Pertemps

    Been told have to do a mandatory course 3 days a week full day for 2 weeks didnt get told much else have to see them again this week to be told about it.

    Anyone here with Pertemps who has had to do this after the induction ?

    Didnt sign the consent form for data sharing with the employer or the consent for data sharing between dwp etc and I didnt sign the consent form for them to be able to apply for jobs on my behalf. Nothing was said, maybe because I am in the midst of a complaint with the 1st provider that cost me a job by contacting an employer hassling them with a form when I had not signed the consent form there either.

    Any info on afore mentioned course appreciated and if it really is mandatory like I was told.
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