The Work Programme New Thread

Elvisia

I had to put my form thing (used to be a UB40?) in the post as I got some last minute work, and I didn't have time to start schlepping all the way over to the Job Centre and they said before I could send it back to them. So I wasn't able to speak to anyone to ask about signing off the WP. I guess I will find out on Monday if I get a phone call asking where I am.

The work I got was purely through my own efforts, nothing to do with the WP!

LadyMissA

Elvisia wrote: »

I had to put my form thing (used to be a UB40?) in the post as I got some last minute work, and I didn't have time to start schlepping all the way over to the Job Centre and they said before I could send it back to them. So I wasn't able to speak to anyone to ask about signing off the WP. I guess I will find out on Monday if I get a phone call asking where I am.

The work I got was purely through my own efforts, nothing to do with the WP!

Last minute work? Is it a temp job? If it is and you do not get another job right after it or claim JSA between now and 2 years you will be automatically sent right back to the WP.

Lith

Wouldn't people who 'sign of' for 3 weeks and 'sign back on' go back to stage 1? that's what many chavs do lol

LadyMissA

Lith wrote: »

Wouldn't people who 'sign of' for 3 weeks and 'sign back on' go back to stage 1? that's what many chavs do lol

If you have been sent to the WP and return to JSA in two years you go back to the WP. You do not go back to the begining.

Elvisia

The job was a few intense days (it's private teaching) to start with, then it's a less hours per week but regular. I could still sign on as it's under 16 hours a week, but I wouldn't get any JSA (or £5 or whatever), and I would still have to attend the WP and frankly I have better things to do than apply for the stupid jobs they want me to go for, when I could be searching for more private work myself. So I've signed off from the day I started earning. We had a bit of a clash about how I should be looking for work, apparently I can't just advertise and go and find people myself, I have to apply for private tuition jobs and show them my applications, and I have never yet found an advert for private tuition that suits what I teach. So I was told this would result in my benefits being sanctioned (yawn).

I don't plan on signing on again, if I were desperate I would apply for carers allowance as I am the carer to my dad who's been officially declared as ill enough to need a full time carer, but my family aren't keen to go down that route unless necessary, and I would rather work and earn the money myself and I am not answerable to the state anymore.

Elvisia

Oh - I haven't mentioned to the JC I am signing off because I am working, at the moment it's paid in cash and I have been finding out about becoming self employed, but I do not want my new clients rung up and asked if I am working for them. Also the JC have tried to persuade me in the past to keep signing on when I've gone in and said I've had enough, so I suspect they'd have told me to keep signing on and earning.

donnajunkie

Elvisia wrote: »

Oh - I haven't mentioned to the JC I am signing off because I am working, at the moment it's paid in cash and I have been finding out about becoming self employed, but I do not want my new clients rung up and asked if I am working for them. Also the JC have tried to persuade me in the past to keep signing on when I've gone in and said I've had enough, so I suspect they'd have told me to keep signing on and earning.

if you work less than 16 hours but dont sign on will your ni still get paid?

Elvisia

No but I have spoken to the NI office at length about this, and they've explained how I can pay NI on the self employment rate.
It won't matter if I have a gap as I have already 15 years of NI under my belt, and I only need another 15 years for my full pension, but I can work another 31 years if I go up to retirement age. I plan on working to 67, if not longer, because my real career path is a passion rather than just a job.

Morlock

Lith wrote: »

Wouldn't people who 'sign of' for 3 weeks and 'sign back on' go back to stage 1? that's what many chavs do lol

Lol, absolute rubbish.

Joy111

By giving details to JSA of where you will be working when you sign off you gift a total of £4400 to the WP Provider. IF you had refused consent (non sanctionable) they would be unable to claim for doing nothing for you. I have a thread on unemploymentmovement.com testing the system - My Battle with WP, I suggest anyone about to be sent to a WP provider reads it, it shows legalities - and before anyone bawls at me - I am highly skilled, well qualified and ex JCPlus and thrown on the scrapheap by this Govt. With over 2.67 million out of work (and these figures are massaged - I should know) and only 700,000 vacancies - do the maths!