The Work Programme New Thread

jayne30

LadyMissA wrote: »

what is the 2nd stage?

With Serco Work Programme is split into 3 stages called engage, enable and enpower. 1st stage was 16 weeks and enable and enpower are for upto 44 weeks each.

LadyMissA

jayne30 wrote: »

With Serco Work Programme is split into 3 stages called engage, enable and enpower. 1st stage was 16 weeks and enable and enpower are for upto 44 weeks each.

Oh I am not with them but never heard of any stages at all. Only just had my 2nd appointment with them since starting it in Aug last year!!
:eek:

jayne30

LadyMissA wrote: »

Oh I am not with them but never heard of any stages at all. Only just had my 2nd appointment with them since starting it in Aug last year!!
:eek:

At each stage you are sent to a different provider so I am now with Pertemps. Was told if still unemployed on last stage I would be seen by Shaw Trust. It is still Serco who deliver the Work Programme in my area though.

LadyMissA

jayne30 wrote: »

At each stage you are sent to a different provider so I am now with Pertemps. Was told if still unemployed on last stage I would be seen by Shaw Trust. It is still Serco who deliver the Work Programme in my area though.

this must be just where you live then

jayne30

Yes thinks its just Serco who do this. Would of gladly stayed with my 1st Provider just attending fortnightly.

Emailed a Manager at Serco asking why I am assumed to need help by being put on this course when noone has even looked at my Cv or cover letters or how my job search is going etc. Only had my induction not even a 1st app yet surely it should be after a 1st one to one app when you are assessed at maybe needing help with a Cv etc.

Apparantly you get a City & Guilds after this course, maybe its in being a walkover and doing everything they tell you.

So much for the WP being aimed at the individual and their needs and what help they may need. Seems with Pertemps you just get dumped in a group course where everyone gets treated as needing a lot of help.

I am all for helpful courses, knowing Pertemps are a part of Learn Direct I even did their Numeracy and Literacy assessments on my own initiative, however if your results come back as being between grade a-c GCSE you are not entitled to any funding. A male also asked at induction re FLT lessons and got told there was no money available to fund it.

Maybe these Providers should spend more time with younger people who may be have never worked and do need help with what to write on a CV etc. Personally I feel useless and degraded after coming out of these places like its my fault unemployed into average job vac's don't compute.

I want to work and if I wanted a career change where maybe you do 2 days work experience to see if a career change is truly what you want then I would do that.

LadyMissA

jayne30 wrote: »

So much for the WP being aimed at the individual and their needs and what help they may need. Seems with Pertemps you just get dumped in a group course where everyone gets treated as needing a lot of help..

the powers that be seem to think the WP is tailor made for each person but it is not. My provider have far too many people and not enough staff and I have just been asked to email in 5 jobs I have applied for each week! What a joke that is. They told me that they can't do anything for me and try to get rid of me as quick as possible as I ask too many questions.

red_devil

I went on a Mandatory course last Year under the New Deal. It was classroom based 4 weeks long and a total waste of time.

We played games, and did crosswords and wordsearches and made things out of cardboard etc and then someone came in and judged the best one.
We went to the library once, and often we were let out early. I dont think they know what to do with people for a month.

I think and hope thats all been scrapped now and there is nothing mandaory.

November5th

red_devil wrote: »

I went on a Mandatory course last Year under the New Deal. It was classroom based 4 weeks long and a total waste of time.

We played games, and did crosswords and wordsearches and made things out of cardboard etc and then someone came in and judged the best one.
We went to the library once, and often we were let out early. I dont think they know what to do with people for a month.

I think and hope thats all been scrapped now and there is nothing mandaory.

Kindergarden basically, amazing! Do the government really not know what they have been spending our money on?

red_devil

They should have come down and sat in on one of the courses!

November5th

red_devil wrote: »

They should have come down and sat in on one of the courses!

Well perhaps they don't think it's rubbish because that's the sort of courses you do to get on in government!

Luckily I have only been on a couple of optional courses years ago. One was assertiveness training, where we sat round a table and got shouted at by a VERY ASSERTIVE WOMAN. Everyone left at lunchtime. The other was confidence building where we jumped up and down and shook our arms about. I quite enjoyed that but I wouldn't say I needed it