The Work Programme New Thread

jayne30

donnajunkie wrote: »

you can try and persuade your adviser to let you off it but if they dont and it is classed as mandatory then failure to take part is very likely to result in a sanction.

Had a phone call apparantly some get mandated after induction some dont, think they have to mandate so many a week from induction based on no opinion what so ever. Out of the 5 in my induction I was the only one dressed smartly and had a folder with me. Seems it does not pay to look well presented and prepared, maybe I should of wore a tracksuit and a baseball cap like 2 of them and I would of been left alone and just seen fortnightly.

Seems I have to do this course just hope they do not make me make a brand new CV to pass one day or change what I put in application forms.

Pretty ironic this course is part about how you present yourself and how confident and assertive you come across when its exactly for being those things I have been slung in a group course in the 1st place.

Hope after I have done this they wont continue to treat me differently and send me on pointless courses, noone else seems to be on courses on work programme.

I can only think they are being like this because I wouldn't sign any consent forms. Maybe the person running the course will see it as no benefit to me and dismiss me :mad:

Vincent_Buenisedes

jayne30 wrote: »

Had a phone call apparantly some get mandated after induction some dont, think they have to mandate so many a week from induction based on no opinion what so ever. Out of the 5 in my induction I was the only one dressed smartly and had a folder with me. Seems it does not pay to look well presented and prepared, maybe I should of wore a tracksuit and a baseball cap like 2 of them and I would of been left alone and just seen fortnightly.

Seems I have to do this course just hope they do not make me make a brand new CV to pass one day or change what I put in application forms.

Pretty ironic this course is part about how you present yourself and how confident and assertive you come across when its exactly for being those things I have been slung in a group course in the 1st place.

Hope after I have done this they wont continue to treat me differently and send me on pointless courses, noone else seems to be on courses on work programme.

I can only think they are being like this because I wouldn't sign any consent forms. Maybe the person running the course will see it as no benefit to me and dismiss me :mad:

You are EXACTLY the type of "customer" they are after. The more intelligient, confident, and ultimately, more employable you appear, the less work they have to do and the easier it is for them to get their money. But, not signing the consent forms does throw a spanner in the works though:D

LadyMissA

Vincent_Buenisedes wrote: »

You are EXACTLY the type of "customer" they are after. The more intelligient, confident, and ultimately, more employable you appear, the less work they have to do and the easier it is for them to get their money. But, not signing the consent forms does throw a spanner in the works though:D

Less work they have to do? Mine do not do anything for me and have told me that the WP is not meant for people who have had jobs etc. They still don't get paid if you do not get a job so you would think they would be trying at least to get interviews for people.

red_devil

Does anyone know does the advisor get a personal bonus if he/she gets you into work?

rhcp

red_devil wrote: »

Does anyone know does the advisor get a personal bonus if he/she gets you into work?

They all have targets. They won't get a bonus if they get you into work individually, but they will get a bonus if they reach their targets ie 10 people into work in the month. And, I think it is also dependent on whether the office as a whole meets its target.

out_of_cash

jayne30 wrote: »

If I refuse this 6 day course cv/interview techniques etc they say is mandatory will I get sanctioned ?

I have reasons ie i was not told the true nature of the course, I seem to have been assessed as needing help when not even my cv etc has been looked at and also I know a fellow inductee was not put on this course.

I am going to email the providers I go to later ask if I can see this person who runs this course sign up or if I can email him my cv/cover letter example etc. Be pointless going on a 6 day full day course when I already have all these things and have been told in the past they are a good standard.

There is something on the dwp web site ,provider guidence,the rules they are suppose to go by when sending you on a course etc,it can only technically be forced upon you if THEY can show it will increase to chances of finding a job.Going by what most people across the country are saying about this i would like to see them prove it.All depends if you want to take them on or not as they can be bloody minded and just cut your benefit at the flick of a switch.

out_of_cash

LadyMissA wrote: »

Deal? It's not a deal at all. I had to put in a complaint as I had an assesment in Aug 2011 and never saw or heard from anyone in 5 months as they lost me on their system and blamed all the staff who they sacked (50% of them) and the internal systems they had in place. This then resulted in a letter from the Ops director and a personal phone call from him.

I am not one to back down and I know how to play them very well as I am more organsied and more professional than anyone who works for them.

He told me they DO NOT send people on work placements and I will never had to do one. They do not want in to work in the employers favour so that was it.

Thanks for that.:T relief then.

out_of_cash

Bearman wrote: »

I have a interview soon, I don't know if its about the Work Programme (As I have been on JSA for a year) or the New Enterprise Scheme ( I asked a advisor and they did not know anything and set up this interview I have coming up or the adviser did so that I would not be eligible for the NEA by the time I had this interview, I mean surely they could let me see a advisor about it before 6 weeks?)
but what exactly happens on the start of the work programme? are you sent some where straight away for £1.25 a hour?"

thanks

Thats dosent happen straight away and others have said not at all which is fantastic news.Just be sure at your first interview if asked to sign the data consent forms, refuse! its you right.

After that you will probably go back every 2 wks then omce a month then for some unlucky !!!!!!s they ask to see them weekly,this happened to a friend of mine and shes really !!!!ed about it.

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

We can blame the WP companies partly as they had to put in a bid to earn the rights to be providers so like any company you would not bid for business if you had no idea what it was you were meant to do when you won the contract?

My provider were the people runnung the New Deal in my area and have 25 yrs working for the Govenment so it's not all new to them.

if everyone accepted it is an impossible task then no-one would bid at all. we can blame them for bidding for a share of money on the basis of them getting people a job when they know they cant get people a job. however we cant blame them for not being able to get people a job because like i said its an impossible task. if there arent enough jobs a work scheme cant do anything to change that. if employers arent interested in employing the long term unemployed theres nothing a work scheme can do to change that.

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

if employers arent interested in employing the long term unemployed theres nothing a work scheme can do to change that.

That is what was in my letter to Chris Grayling and Iain Duncan Smith.