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donnajunkie

jayne30 wrote: »

Had a phone call apparantly some get mandated after induction some dont, think they have to mandate so many a week from induction based on no opinion what so ever. Out of the 5 in my induction I was the only one dressed smartly and had a folder with me. Seems it does not pay to look well presented and prepared, maybe I should of wore a tracksuit and a baseball cap like 2 of them and I would of been left alone and just seen fortnightly.

yes on occasion people have said to me its best to turn up scruffy and to act like you are a bit slow. its also a good idea to tell them what they want to hear but not more than you need to. they dont like people telling them how it is.

donnajunkie

jayne30 wrote: »

Seems I have to do this course just hope they do not make me make a brand new CV to pass one day or change what I put in application forms.

you will only have to do things as they say when they are watching like if you are in there doing a jobsearch. theres nothing stopping you from continuing to do things as you want to when you are at home. make sure you have a copy of your current cv at home on your pc or on a disc. if you just have it on one disc and they change it then your current cv will be lost. that is why i say make sure you have another copy safe somewhere.

donnajunkie

jayne30 wrote: »

Pretty ironic this course is part about how you present yourself and how confident and assertive you come across when its exactly for being those things I have been slung in a group course in the 1st place.

when they ask what you though of it dont make the mistake i made and say it wasnt of use or that it wasnt anything you didnt already know. just say it was useful and you liked it.

donnajunkie

jayne30 wrote: »

Hope after I have done this they wont continue to treat me differently and send me on pointless courses, noone else seems to be on courses on work programme.

i can assure you that you wont be the only person getting sent on courses. i think half of the time they put people on things just so they can be seen to be doing their job.

out_of_cash

LadyMissA wrote: »

I haven't heard of anyone on the WP that has to work or do anything like that.

Hi, your totally right,just read it on the dwps web site WP regulations.There is so much bulll comin from providers and jc staff etc with this its hard to et a grip on whats mandatory and not.

out_of_cash

donnajunkie wrote: »

i can assure you that you wont be the only person getting sent on courses. i think half of the time they put people on things just so they can be seen to be doing their job.

Id say thats 90% of the time:D bit like our politician friends who invented this pile of crap.

LadyMissA

out_of_cash wrote: »

Hi, your totally right,just read it on the dwps web site WP regulations.There is so much bulll comin from providers and jc staff etc with this its hard to et a grip on whats mandatory and not.

Everything you see on the TV is about 16-24 yr olds, not others so people just assume the DWP are doing something, but they aren't

out_of_cash

donnajunkie wrote: »

when they ask what you though of it dont make the mistake i made and say it wasnt of use or that it wasnt anything you didnt already know. just say it was useful and you liked it.

Hi donnajunkie,

Why was it a mistake in that you informed them as to it was no good etc? did they then send you on many other waste of time courses.

out_of_cash

jayne30 wrote: »

Had a phone call apparantly some get mandated after induction some dont, think they have to mandate so many a week from induction based on no opinion what so ever. Out of the 5 in my induction I was the only one dressed smartly and had a folder with me. Seems it does not pay to look well presented and prepared, maybe I should of wore a tracksuit and a baseball cap like 2 of them and I would of been left alone and just seen fortnightly.

Seems I have to do this course just hope they do not make me make a brand new CV to pass one day or change what I put in application forms.

Pretty ironic this course is part about how you present yourself and how confident and assertive you come across when its exactly for being those things I have been slung in a group course in the 1st place.

Hope after I have done this they wont continue to treat me differently and send me on pointless courses, noone else seems to be on courses on work programme.

I can only think they are being like this because I wouldn't sign any consent forms. Maybe the person running the course will see it as no benefit to me and dismiss me :mad:

Hi Jayne30,

are you sure its madatory,if so i believe they need to show just course if they are forcing your hand at this crap.

check out this dwp link, http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/wp-pg-chapter-3.pdf guidence fo all providers on the WP.

jayne30

Keep getting told different things, at induction and sign up to course yesterday was told it was mandatory for everyone at Pertemps. But when a employee from what I presume is their head office I was told ppl get treated as individual and I was thought by the person who did the induction I would benefit from this course. Never signed any consent form but I did the action plan as I was told this course was mandatory for all.

Found out yesterday the city and guilds is in Customer Service, thats 2 days of the course, again I was never told that.

Can't find anywhere what is mandatory and what isn't except for the minimum apps of every 14 days. I have looked at minimum delivery of Serco and all it says is they will make you aware of training courses etc nothing about mandatory ones.
When he went through my action plan I was told job search/training is always highlighted as needing as that is the providers job. I am fearing as thats the box he ticked I will be sent on numerous courses.

Does anyone know if its mandatory to sign action plans and as like I did I signed the first one if I can retract that ?

Also do you have a right to change your employment coach if you feel they are not helping in the right way ?

To the poster above I only have my CV as a printed copy and also as a document on my home pc. Will I be made to put it on something external ? I apply for jobs from home so do not see a need.

I know I can refuse a course but as I was told yesterday I would be reported to the job centre and may be sanctioned. I claim JSA as I am looking for work and I can back up all my applications and show my CV so would I be sanctioned for not wanting to do a course ?

If sanctioned for this will I repeatedly get put on mandatory courses and re sanctioned but for longer ? Also does hardship provision still exist if you are sanctioned ? living alone I would have no income for bills/electricity etc. Not that I think it would be fair to be sanctioned for this as the only rule really to claim JSA is to be actively seeking work and can prove it.

Thanks for any info anyone has